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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Caporegime
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Around £350 ish, as long as there is supply of rtx 3070 and 3080, if they dry up, the 2080ti price will go up.... But given the choice of a brand new 3070 at £469 or a used RTX 2080ti at £469 which would you buy? Or would you need a price incentive to buy used?

3070 no doubt, extra features with lots more tensor/RT cores and the tensor ram compression will help with the smaller mem size. No brainer.
 
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I take it if I'm not interested in 4k gaming and happy at 1440p then I've no real reason to switch my 1080Ti to a 3080 ?

Depends if you think raytracing is going to become a useful thing to have. If so then you could get a 3070, which (if we believe the figures) would be a performance boost of about 30% and give you decent RT performance. You don't even need to go to a 3080 to get it though, the 1080Ti should now be thoroughly outclassed by the 3070.

That said, I'd wait for real review figures, and for AMD to show their hand.
 
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I love reading post slike this based only on brand loyalty and dreams. To think AMD are going to "blow Nvidia out of the water" is an exercise in delusion. The best they can likely hope to do is provide performance in the same ball park at similar or cheaper price-points. If AMD had an Ampere-killer we would have seen controlled leaks before the Ampere launch in order to disrupt it. Their silence is not a good sign.
Why would they do that? All it does is give Nvidia a chance to respond (a.k.a lower prices if AMD were better).
As someone has mentioned in another thread. AMD's silence means they have a dud or something really good. Only time will tell.

Edit: AMD needs to leak the right time to avoid being overshadowed by actual news from Ampere.
 
Soldato
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Spending that much money on a GPU, why don't you just wait for Cyperpunk to come out and check the benches? Seems like a lot of cash to waste on a new rig for one game.
Yea' I mean that's the logical and sensible option which is what I will possibly go for, unless my PC dies then I'm forced in to it, which fingers crossed it doesn't!
 
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Buuuuuuuut, even there Nvidia are essentially putting them neck and neck. And you'd assume that's in a best-case scenario for the 3070, whereas Digital Foundry showed the gap between the old and new can vary quite a lot depending on the game. It wouldn't shock me if the 2080 Ti was faster in some games. Especially once you factor in overclocking, since 2080 Tis had more headroom than the other Turing cards due to being clocked lower out of the box. Plus the VRAM deficit for the 3070, which will affect some scenarios. I'm in no way saying you should run out and buy a 2080 Ti though. Even if the 3070 isn't quite a 2080 Ti killer across the board, it's still clearly the better buy.

/edit/ I also just noticed that they have the 2070 Super more ahead of the 1080 Ti than the 3070 ahead of the 2080 Ti, and the 2070 Super doesn't even outperform the 1080 Ti across the board.

Yes and will benefit from better RT performance I'd imagine.
 
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Yeah I noticed that. My FE 1080ti often gets up to mid 80's but the 2080ti cooler performed a little better than that afaik. The emphasis on improved cooling suggests the AIB models may not be worth the premium.

If I was to go with one this gen I would be looking at the nvidia FE cards.

Last gen Turing I was very impressed with cooling wise. They were built better than any AIB card and not much hotter or louder. And considering some of those cards were significantly more expensive.

The 10 series FE coolers were crap in my opinion. Hot and noisy. Turing was a massive improvement.

I bet the nvidia cooler this gen is even better than the last so it makes even more sense to stick with nvidia founders edition.
 
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