NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

[VincentHanna]

Also whats NVDIAa's warranty policy compared to the likes of ZOTAC?

Nvidia UK give you 3 years.

 

[opethdisciple]

At 18:30mins they talk about PCIe3 vs PCIe4 for a second and speculate the difference will be about 5%.

 

[opethdisciple]

I know but show me where its categorically stated that the 3070 is faster than the 2080ti? Its assumed atm.

There is n 'Nvidia' graph showing it.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Surely the same as every other year with AIB vs FE.

no cos the FE coolers are getting better and we know they aren't cheap either so given an Ai doesn't carry that overhead and is asking for an additional £150 in some cases what are you actually getting for that

 

[VincentHanna]

5% is still decent, if you have PCIE 4.0 anyway.

 

[beany_bot]

Well less than £500 for sure but that is about right and yet again demonstrates the Turing mockery, even now OcUK are selling them for £1.5k get them quick before they are gone

"selling fast" "flying out the door" "not enough stock" "trying our best" "great price"

 

[JediFragger]

Will a 3080 be much of an upgrade over my 2070 Super @ 3440x1440?

Hmmmm, nearly double? 80%? Educated guess. Reviews/leaks soon hopefully!

 

[opethdisciple]

I know but show me where its categorically stated that the 3070 is faster than the 2080ti? Its assumed atm.

Skip to 18:42mins and see the chart in the video.

 

[malachi]

I initially intended to buy 2 3090s for SLI, but I am starting to think that this might be a bit overkill for 4K gaming.

Then again, I can’t get a minimum of 60 FPS in RDR2 maxed out with 2 2080 Tis, so I doubt that a single 3090 will be able to.

Then again, SLI doesn’t scale 100% in RDR2.

Not sure what to do.

I dont see the point of going SLI when support is slowly being dropped for it.

 

[Things change I've changed]

Hmmmm, nearly double? 80%? Educated guess.

Wow!

I'll be jumping on that then, what's a family rates price to charge my brother for my 2070 Super? (don't say free!)

 

[tyler_jrb]

Hmmmm, nearly double? 80%? Educated guess. Reviews/leaks soon hopefully!

Suggests around 70-80% 2080-3080 in terms of raw performance which is very impressive, in many cases shows especially RTX it’s 2x the performance. That’s with live 4k ultra gameplay and game comparisons between 2080 and 3080.

I also find it interesting he’s using a 10900k pcie 3.0 system. Guess the difference as most thought between 3-4.0 is quite minimal then but will wait for full true benchmarks to see if that’s the case.

 

[JediFragger]

I'm be jumping on that then, what's a family rates price to charge my brother for my 2070 Super? (don't say free!)

I'd say 250 is bloody good, poss 300. Just look at pricing beforehand and knock some pound notes off for him

 

[Jacky60]

During the announcement he said the reference cooler keeps the card 20 degrees cooler than previous gen coolers. I have no idea how hot the previous ref coolers ran but 20 degrees cooler seems like a huge boost in cooling performance?

Yeah I noticed that. My FE 1080ti often gets up to mid 80's but the 2080ti cooler performed a little better than that afaik. The emphasis on improved cooling suggests the AIB models may not be worth the premium.

 

[JediFragger]

Suggests around 70-80% 2080-3080 in terms of raw performance which is very impressive. I also find it interesting he’s using a 10900k pcie 3.0 system. Guess the difference as most thought between 3-4.0 is quite minimal then.

Yup, and I see it isn't being bottlenecked by an AMD cpu

 

[justwondering]

Well nobody who is informed, I'm keeping an eye on it just out of interest, £560 was the lowest I saw after a 5 minute look-though, not surprised there's been lower. I'm amazed how many are up for sale given these were bought almost exclusively by in the know enthusiasts.

Assuming the 3070 benches as well as NV claim it performs, what's a 2nd hand 280ti actually worth?

Around £350 ish, as long as there is supply of rtx 3070 and 3080, if they dry up, the 2080ti price will go up.... But given the choice of a brand new 3070 at £469 or a used RTX 2080ti at £469 which would you buy? Or would you need a price incentive to buy used?

 

[justwondering]

Yeah I noticed that. My FE 1080ti often gets up to mid 80's but the 2080ti cooler performed a little better than that afaik. The emphasis on improved cooling suggests the AIB models may not be worth the premium.

I had a 1080ti FE, I found setting a custom fan curve made a nice difference to the temps.

 

[Jacky60]

Also whats NVDIAa's warranty policy compared to the likes of ZOTAC?

3 years vs 5

 

[Aretak]

There is n 'Nvidia' graph showing it.

This one:

Buuuuuuuut, even there Nvidia are essentially putting them neck and neck. And you'd assume that's in a best-case scenario for the 3070, whereas Digital Foundry showed the gap between the old and new can vary quite a lot depending on the game. It wouldn't shock me if the 2080 Ti was faster in some games. Especially once you factor in overclocking, since 2080 Tis had more headroom than the other Turing cards due to being clocked lower out of the box. Plus the VRAM deficit for the 3070, which will affect some scenarios. I'm in no way saying you should run out and buy a 2080 Ti though. Even if the 3070 isn't quite a 2080 Ti killer across the board, it's still clearly the better buy.

/edit/ I also just noticed that they have the 2070 Super more ahead of the 1080 Ti than the 3070 ahead of the 2080 Ti, and the 2070 Super doesn't even outperform the 1080 Ti across the board.

 

[Core09]

Way I see it is, the 3080 will have about 30% higher FPS at 4k compared to the 2080ti in non rtx titles. The lack of data on the 3090 suggests there to be marginal improvement over the 3080.

Imo buy the 3080 and wait for the next release of cards.

 

[Minusorange]

I take it if I'm not interested in 4k gaming and happy at 1440p then I've no real reason to switch my 1080Ti to a 3080 ?