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Learn what? I didnt buy Fury, got vega for £299, skipped Radeon 7..
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Learn what? I didnt buy Fury, got vega for £299, skipped Radeon 7..
Did the developers state that the estimate would give the optimal experience gaming experience?
How do you know that estimate is nothing more than a minimum requirement for acceptable/passable performance?
Since VRAM usage will fluctuate depending on where you are in the game, is the estimate the worst case, average case, or best case?
More testing needs to be done to draw the conclusion he came to. Or someone needs to dig deep into the code and analyis what is actually going on and what is being loaded
Edit: We will get to test this soon. If the 3070 is roughly equal in raster performance to the 2080ti. Then we can benchmark games, that like to cache more than 8GB and see if there is a significant change to the frame pacing and minimum frame rates.
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That you will be ultimately be let downSome people are a gluten for punishment though.
Gluten eh? I quite like grains.. I dont know - the guys with the leaks are slipping hints this time it is gonna be good. Like I said, from history, just because I tend to buy AMD I wont be mugged hence the VII no go and only cheap vega was had
Doom Eternal at 4K stutters like crazy with a V64. Reduce texture quality/streaming and then it's smooth like butter again. It definitely uses more than 8 GB. I know it's going to be a bit more for AMD in general than Nvidia, so it might not affect 2080 Supers and the like the same. Didn't end up testing with HBCC, can't remember why, mostly was disappointed in the game and ignored it after launch I guess.
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Too slow fella, like AMD, spotted the mistake and it was already edited well before your replyGluten eh? I quite like grains.. I dont know - the guys with the leaks are slipping hints this time it is gonna be good. Like I said, from history, just because I tend to buy AMD I wont be mugged hence the VII no go and only cheap vega was had
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That you will be ultimately be let downSome people are a glutton for punishment though
To be fair everything this time around points to Rdna 2 being a step up. Just looking at how small the gpu part of the 52cu xbox apu is and then how high the ps5 chip can boost points to AMD having something that could be very fast when scaled up to a semi large pc part. I am not to bothered about the RT being great but do want something way faster than Vega 64. Hopefully this arrives and is priced between £4-700 depending where the performance lies and i will be happy.
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Let’s hope they can do to Nvidia what they did to intel with the Ryzen 3000 chips.That you will be ultimately be let down
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Agree. Just some quick maths on the console GPU having disabled cores, with 54 cu with 16Gb vram would make 1.35* 5700XT not including RDNA2 improvements. This would be equal to a 2080Ti easily so interested in what they are going to announce now and at what price..
Interesting read thank you.
7 as a do anything GPU is a really solid gpu. In certain compute tasks it dominates everything, tasks like single-precision FFT nothing gets close even a Titan RTX wouldn't be in the same league. As a pure gaming card if that's your jam then there are faster cards for sure. If you need that compute performance, like a game as well and can make use of that 16gb buffer then really it's a super solid all rounder. Don't get me wrong if all you want to do is game then perhaps the 7 isn't your card.
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Some of these guys dont see the extras like mining or compute, quite steep initially but AMD tend to drop after release and settle on a better price.
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I think people with sense learned a long time ago. I didn't buy Fury, Vega or Radeon 7 or Bulldozer, Piledriver etc. Doesn't mean 3600/3700/3800/3900X etc are no good. What about Athlon 64, 4870/290/5870 etc. They can't always hit it out of the park BUT they can sometimes.
That you will be ultimately be let down
£1500+ for a GFX card, that's the "let down", Nvidia have pushed prices to stratospheric levels and will continue to do so. 2080 was massively overpriced for the performance it offered over the 1080, they are launching first so they can basically set the bar again in terms of price!
1080ti approx $699 (March 10, 2017) 2080 ti approx $1200 (September 27, 2018) for about 30% more performance, your right people are gluttons for punishment!
I'll wait until I see performance numbers are on 30xx vs Big NAVI alternatives, I've waited this long and it would be madness to buy without comparison. I always like some kind of "bang for my buck", that's why in decades past I've overclocked, built my own PCs etc etc. Any fool can shill out £1000's to give themselves the e-peen glow, the real trick for me was getting a system with a high percentage of performance for the lowest price.
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AMD will start leaking the day after people have all bought, no doubt.
The point here is that you shouldn't focus on the 3090. They announced the 3080 as their flagship card, and the 3090 is a halo product for nutters with too much money. The value for money on the 3080 and 3070 is significantly better than what we've had over the last two years, and that's what people are getting excited by. You can now get performance that would have cost an absurd £1200 for £465, and that's the kind of generational leap people have wanted. They've delivered.£1500+ for a GFX card, that's the "let down", Nvidia have pushed prices to stratospheric levels and will continue to do so. 2080 was massively overpriced for the performance it offered over the 1080, they are launching first so they can basically set the bar again in terms of price!
1080ti approx $699 (March 10, 2017) 2080 ti approx $1200 (September 27, 2018) for about 30% more performance, your right people are gluttons for punishment!
I'll wait until I see performance numbers are on 30xx vs Big NAVI alternatives, I've waited this long and it would be madness to buy without comparison. I always like some kind of "bang for my buck", that's why in decades past I've overclocked, built my own PCs etc etc. Any fool can shill out £1000's to give themselves the e-peen glow, the real trick for me was getting a system with a high percentage of performance for the lowest price.
The short answer here is that AMD need to bring something good to the table if they want to keep market share.
What remains to be seen is whether the whole VRAM debate is going to leave the Nvidia cards looking anaemic (especially with rumours of larger VRAM cards in the pipeline) or whether it concludes that 8-10gb is fine. That's where AMD might have a chance to scoop up sales if they leave a bit more capacity there and still provide solid core performance at a decent price, which will be hard to do as they'll have higher BOM costs with the extra VRAM, and only better yields on their process would offset that.
Exactly that, we don't know what AMDs response is yet so it's very easy to get over excited by £1200 performance (even if that performance leap from Nvidia was only 30% for a massive price premium) for £465, we need to know what AMD will deliver.
£1500+ for a GFX card, that's the "let down", Nvidia have pushed prices to stratospheric levels and will continue to do so. 2080 was massively overpriced for the performance it offered over the 1080, they are launching first so they can basically set the bar again in terms of price!
1080ti approx $699 (March 10, 2017) 2080 ti approx $1200 (September 27, 2018) for about 30% more performance, your right people are gluttons for punishment!
I'll wait until I see performance numbers are on 30xx vs Big NAVI alternatives, I've waited this long and it would be madness to buy without comparison. I always like some kind of "bang for my buck", that's why in decades past I've overclocked, built my own PCs etc etc. Any fool can shill out £1000's to give themselves the e-peen glow, the real trick for me was getting a system with a high percentage of performance for the lowest price.
Yeah you've just read it wrong. The 3080 is the new 2080ti, not the 3090. As in the 3080 is the new top range card and the 3090 is almost the Titan like card. Only loaded people are buying the 3090. The 3080/70 are actually good vfm and I'll be suprised if AMD do anything to beat it. Dangerous game for AMD right now, they need to release something better for cheaper or lose even more of a market share sadly.
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