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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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AMD will really need to pull something out of the bag if the nvidia performance is to be believed. If the 3070 is genuinely faster than a 2080ti then this is like the Maxwell to Pascal jump which was pretty huge.
 
Oh BTW, VRS will have an effect on image quality, the whole point of it is to render what is apparently less visible on screen at a lower quality, so those people who like to pick out missing details in distant objects will find stuff to point at.

AMD already does something similar in Software with Radeon Boost, if you turn it on it will render at a lower quality during motion, stuff that motion blur would usually hide anyway.
 
Th0nt said:
@TNA told you not to buy the card! :p
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I'm happy with the card, no regrets, its as fast as i need it to be and after some tweaking its cool and quiet, the only thing that bothers me about it is it's 8GB VRam, but ain't changing with this gen anyway...

73c, 2075Mhz, 1800RPM Fans, 170 Watt's.
 
Dontrocktheboat said:
8% down today.

And so it starts..............:rolleyes: sad.
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Mate don't stress its fine, share prices go up and down, when AMD releases the consoles and their new CPU's / GPU's they will pass $100....


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Th0nt said:
@TNA told you not to buy the card! :p
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Hahaha. I did ;)

He says he has no regrets, but we all know he is lying to himself :p I am sure there is some regret. Everyone will be on their new shiny Big Navi and Ampere GPU’s and he will be left behind on old tech. Would not be too bad if he had not recently got his 5700, but this close? Ouch!

He purchased that card based on good price for performance, let’s see if there won’t be some that beats that soon :D

Sorry humbug, just pulling your leg mate. All that matters is you are happy. Who cares if you made a bad call on this occasion or not eh? :p;)

Dontrocktheboat said:
8% down today.

And so it starts..............:rolleyes: sad.
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Lol. You must have made a killing man :rolleyes:

Funny thing is you still don’t realise why you were wrong. No big deal. Keep shorting it. Haha.
 
TNA said:
Hahaha. I did ;)

He says he has no regrets, but we all know he is lying to himself :p I am sure there is some regret. Everyone will be on their new shiny Big Navi and Ampere GPU’s and he will be left behind on old tech. Would not be too bad if he had not recently got his 5700, but this close? Ouch!

He purchased that card based on good price for performance, let’s see if there won’t be some that beats that soon :D

Sorry humbug, just pulling your leg mate. All that matters is you are happy. Who cares if you made a bad call on this occasion or not eh? :p;)



Lol. You must have made a killing man :rolleyes:

Funny thing is you still don’t realise why you were wrong. No big deal. Keep shorting it. Haha.
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The 3070 is £450, that's £120 more than i paid for my card and still 8GB.

I have no regrets.

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not stressing at all, shorting mate.
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So just wait until you think its hit rock bottom and buy back in because its going to go up again...
 
I'm surprised AMD hasn't said anything about Big Navi as of yet though. AMD shouldn't give the entire floor of attention to Nvidia even if they aren't ready. They have to have working drivers to showor say something. No, not Raja "something". But a simple tweet saying, "Stay tuned folks we have more vram"...something.
 
Many tech shares are down today, including Apple etc. This is nothing to do with AMD's lack of counter to the 3000 series.

AMD can't compete with Nvidia GPU wise - everyone knows this, though it's mainly due to mindshare, and influencers.

How many of the youtube reaction videos from the popular influencers, or the most popular hardware review websites, mention that NV has been seemingly forced to massively increase their TDP across the board?

Remember Vega64? Laughed at due to power draw. Radeon VII? Laughed at due to power draw. Vega64 = 295W TDP. Radeon VII = 295W. These cards also performed below their Nvidia counterparts, though were priced appropriately for this failing. It still didn't matter.

3080 = 320W!!!
3090 = 350W!!!

Custom cards will push this higher. Now of course these cards are also coupling high power draw with best in class performance, but still, these are very power hungry cards. This is a complete paradigm shift for Nvidia, increasing TDP by around 100W across the range. This is huge, and, ignored by the influencers/websites (majority of them at least).

Consumers have already decided that the TDP doesn't matter if it's Nvidia, which we all know it would be opposite if AMD had cards of this TDP, with this level of performance. It just wouldn't count. "AMD pushing their cards to the edge, hot, power hungry, just to beat Nvidia" - that would largely be the thought pushed around. Sigh.
 
EastCoastHandle said:
I'm surprised AMD hasn't said anything about Big Navi as of yet though. AMD shouldn't give the entire floor of attention to Nvidia even if they aren't ready. They have to have working drivers to showor say something. No, not Raja "something". But a simple tweet saying, "Stay tuned folks we have more vram"...something.
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I've said before people are still abuzz with Ampere. My Facebook and Instagram is filled with 3080 this and Ampere that, it's choc-a-bloc. There's no way any Big Navi talk is going to penetrate this just yet, so why bother? Give it a couple of days for the initial frenzy to die down and then say something. It's all signal-to-noise ratio.

That being said, if we don't get something by Monday then AMD are starting to leave it a bit late. I do maintain they have until the 15th to get something meaty out there simply becuase no money will have changed hands and there's still a couple of days to chew the fat before AMpere actually goes on sale.
 
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The 3070 is £450, that's £120 more than i paid for my card and still 8GB.

I have no regrets.
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I was thinking of more of what AMD will bring soon. I am confident they will bring something better at the £300-£400 range.
 
I'd chuckle if Herkelman tweeted "we're not saying anything about Big Navi just yet because there's no point. All you fanbois just ignore us anyway. For those of you who do care, come back in October and we'll show you what we got".

Jebait the fanbois
 
LePhuronn said:
I've said before people are still abuzz with Ampere. My Facebook and Instagram is filled with 3080 this and Ampere that, it's choc-a-bloc. There's no way any Big Navi talk is going to penetrate this just yet, so why bother? Give it a couple of days for the initial frenzy to die down and then say something. It's all signal-to-noise ratio.

That being said, if we don't get something by Monday then AMD are starting to leave it a bit late. I do maintain they have until the 15th to get something meaty out there simply becuase no money will have changed hands and there's still a couple of days to chew the fat before AMpere actually goes on sale.
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S2N is marketing though. It wasn't important for AMD to say something at the time Nvidia decided to release info. But traditionally, as we know, AMD has left the platform with Nvidia and not say anything until they are ready to release. Which has been and still is a horrible marketing tactic.

IMO, since Nvidia is already released benchmark results for Doom Eternal, for example, Now is the time for AMD to market something about RDNA 2. Not monday, now. Nvidia is already providing outlier, best case results on older titles while AMD is silent. Any professor in Marketing 101 would tell you that's a no-no if you are competing. And as a competitor you have to say something, do something. Not out of desperation but from a business tactic. AMD knew nvidia was going to release info. They had plenty of time to market some sort of counter.


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I'd chuckle if Herkelman tweeted "we're not saying anything about Big Navi just yet because there's no point. All you fanbois just ignore us anyway. For those of you who do care, come back in October and we'll show you what we got".

Jebait the fanbois
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At least that would be something to retort nvidia and starve the wave of enthusiasm for a 8gb card!! ;)

To me watching this marketing is like watching 2 boxers. AMD simply can't take hits like that and not at least put their guard up and make attempts to throw punches. But as it stands, no pun intended, they are doing just that. Just standing there...taking punches. Thinking, I'll do something next round.
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Raja may have overhyped but he wasn't wrong in providing a marketing response. To this day we all still remember 'poor volta' and still use it to this very day!! AMD can market their products without the Raja effect. Just make it memorable.

I don't care what they say about Raja he had enough sense to block and give punches and stayed on his feet with what he had even though it didn't declare him the winner. AMD should learn from that.
 
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AMD has very weak marketing and PR departments. They indeed have to do something in order to shift the focus of the audience away from Nvidia's launch.
AMD has no interest to cooperate or work in Nvidia's interest, and to sell their cards.
Of course, only if there is no agreement between the relatives CEOs of the companies - they are cousins, or uncle and niece?

AMD is the dominant force today in the CPU x86-64 market, so everyone should keep their eyes exactly at AMD.
 
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