AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[shankly1985]

The problem is that a DLSS-alternative would still mostly likely require per-game implementation, and that means it will be excluded from Nvidia games which already feature DLSS. Most importantly Nvidia will still have an insurmountable advantage in Cyberpunk 2077 (and a host of other upcoming major releases this holiday season), and I don't think most people are going to be happy giving that up. I know I sure as heck wouldn't.

It won't though the console version of DLSS is built into the DirectX 12 API so all games will support it.

What you will get is amd and nvidia getting features for games and only nvidia features will be added if nvidia pay the money for them.

Amd features are all open source and ready for development right now from GPUOpen.

Anyway time will tell.

 

[RBImGuy]

I know, and its gonna be more efficient than your 5700XT with all the RDNA2 brucies. So even if they had stood still (which they havnt) by facerolling lets call it the 6700XT it would still come out 25% better and we know they will have pushed the hardware like they did for RDNA1..

Big Dog Navi Is re-engineered so I suspect a lot of people going to be happy more happy they ever been soon

 

[Besty]

If it's $549 or even $599 for a 16GB 3080-matching RDNA2 using less power, they will surely clean up.

$999 excluding with AIO liquid cooler.

 

[JediFragger]

nVidia doing nothing but building hype and AMD nowhere to be found with some little tidbits. Feckless.

 

[humbug]

nVidia doing nothing but building hype and AMD nowhere to be found with some little tidbits. Feckless.

Its building, JayZ2Cents hinted at an October 7 reveal / release, he wouldn't have done that without AMD's approval.

As long as AMD keep rationing hints like that and the one in fortnite its fine, they can't say too much as they would want to keep the important details for their reveal, they just need to keep making noises to say "we are here and we have something"

 

[LePhuronn]

I'm going to cringe if AMD launch a #wereback hashtag. I can feel it in my water

 

[RBImGuy]

nVidia doing nothing but building hype and AMD nowhere to be found with some little tidbits. Feckless.

Funny your in this thread then hyping and then why haven't amd hire you yet for their marketing team?

 

[TheRealDeal]

nVidia doing nothing but building hype and AMD nowhere to be found with some little tidbits. Feckless.

The biggest shocks in life are usually the biggest learning experiences. I have seen plenty of AMD are dead and buried since the Ampere reveal. If AMD really do have something why not keep quiet and come release day shock them so they learn a lesson. This is the tech world where one break through can change everything ie. the cpu market. AMD have nothing to lose by staying quiet as the majority have already written them off and are going to buy Nvidia any how. Best way to kick them up the **** is to deliver something good.

 

[Jacky60]

Looks good for the next upgrade for me



https://twitter.com/coreteks/status/1301839482287796224?s=20

If that's a photo of an RDNA2 card its fugly as sin. Can't AMD design a pretty and cool running card? AIB manufacturers have been showing them how to for years.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

nVidia doing nothing but building hype and AMD nowhere to be found with some little tidbits. Feckless.

They have plenty of time. Nvidia just did their little promo stunt and AMD can get theres together over the next month and still make bank.

We should all know that in the PC market no company can ever be safe, just look at how AMD were crushed by Intel for so long, then AMD pulled it out with the recent chips. We know RDNA 2 is going to be a big announcement (just how big will remain to be seen)

You also have to remember that AMD are basically prepping for the two console launches at present, something Nvidia has not had to think about at all.

 

[LePhuronn]

If that's a photo of an RDNA2 card its fugly as sin. Can't AMD design a pretty and cool running card?

That's a stupid fish-eye distorted picture of the 5700 XT "hit with a pipe" blower. There's been leaked images of RDNA 2 dual fan designs floating around.

Also bear in mind AMD never bothered with AIB-level coolers because A: that's the AIB's job and b: OEMs just want the bare minimum, and blowers actually help out with an OEM's other cooling corner-cutting.

But it's rumoured the penny has finally dropped with AMD and they have to drop the crappy blower if anything to improve perceptions about hot and loud cards.

 

[Yaayuh!]

They have plenty of time. Nvidia just did their little promo stunt and AMD can get theres together over the next month and still make bank.

AMD have 2 weeks before they start losing potential sales to nVidia, that's not plenty of time. They really need to show something off to give some sort of credible information as to what the competition is, if they have it.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

AMD have 2 weeks before they start losing potential sales to nVidia, that's not plenty of time. They really need to show something off to give some sort of credible information as to what the competition is, if they have it.

Those sales were lost when Nvidia launched first, they are not getting them back.

 

[Joxeon]

If the Xbox matches a 2080 with the core running 1700mhz then the 52CUs at 2200mhz should be around 2080ti/3070 performance, now scale that up to 80CUs and your in 3080 performance territory.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

AMD have 2 weeks before they start losing potential sales to nVidia, that's not plenty of time. They really need to show something off to give some sort of credible information as to what the competition is, if they have it.

Of course they have it, Do you think they have just been sitting on their hands the last few years? All that work into the ps5 and xbox X is coming to PC.

 

[chroniclard]

Those sales were lost when Nvidia launched first, they are not getting them back.

There are plenty of people, like me, who will wait and see if AMD bring anything to the table. At the moment I am leaning towards a 3080 but if AMD can match that performance with more VRAM(though I think the 3080 will be fine for me) then I will go AMD.

Helps having a monitor with gsync and freesync.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Of course they have it, Do you think they have just been sitting on their hands the last few years? All that work into the ps5 and xbox X is coming to PC.

I'm not saying that they do or do not have it. Just that they really need to give us a good indication before people start buying up the 3080 and then the 3090.

 

[aoaaron]

Yeah wouldn't pay £650 for a 10GB card no matter how fast it is, i don't think my 5700XT has enough with 8GB, i don't need more GPU muscle, i need more VRam.



Coreteks is an idiot, AMD are not charging £150 more than Nvidia for the same level card, if they are they might as well not bother.

Which games do you need more VRAM for? I'm confused here as gaming at 4k, I need more FPS more than I need more VRAM.

If AMD's cards don't surpass or match the 3080, then its a moot point and I'm desperate for more FPS to play RDR2 at 4K.

I've rarely if ever been VRAM limited but I have been held back by the speed of my 2080 which simply, doesn't cut it. I'm surprised you are happy to stick with 5700XT speeds but want more VRAM...

 

[aoaaron]

nVidia doing nothing but building hype and AMD nowhere to be found with some little tidbits. Feckless.

Sadly this all points towards that AMD can't compete with NVIDIA at the 3080 playing field and instead will launch a card which probably just about beats the 3070 with shed loads more VRAM. Its the most predictable outcome. AMD fanboys will all dance around their un-used VRAM, all the NVIDIA fanboys will dance around the 3080 destroying the AMD flagship in benches and we will all move on.

2-4 years from then, AMD owners will probably boast about how they aren't VRAM limited whilst playing at 30-45fps whilst the NVIDIA guys most likely would have sold their cards and bought the newest NVIDIA cards, bending over everytime at will.

Its the circle of life in the GPU community

 

[Phate]

6000 naming convention has been teased as part of that Fortnite easter egg, in case anyone missed that.