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DLSS and nvidia RTX API's. Both are huge for performance and visual fidelity. Hopefully we'll get a technical breakdown closer to launch if others are being used.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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DLSS and nvidia RTX API's. Both are huge for performance and visual fidelity. Hopefully we'll get a technical breakdown closer to launch if others are being used.
That doesn't make any sense. The recent consoles have used cut back low power versions of the desktop part that are comparable.
If nvidia thought AMD were not going to be competitive do you really think that they would have priced the 3070/80 so low considering the performance they have. They could have added 150-200 quid on and these cards would have still flown off the shelves.
What, Microsoft DirectX 12 Ultimate? The thing that was written for the XBox, which uses AMD hardware?
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Where did this XSX = 2080ti talk come from? Can we get some supporting documentation for this?
Firstly a console and a PC are not the same thing, the actual design of the package is different, look at the XBox's memory layout for example. Secondly, how are you comparing the performance of a console that hasn't been released to a 2080Ti? Just by a TFLOPs number?
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Nvidia clearly do think AMD have something because of the TDP and the price.. Not a chance in hell are nvidia looking to give away performance for less money unless they have no choice.
Same with the big power draw, they pushed the boat out on this launch because a 10% less performing set of cards will be eaten by AMD.
Same with the big power draw, they pushed the boat out on this launch because a 10% less performing set of cards will be eaten by AMD.
Presumably by the actual demos that have been run, namely the Gears 5 demo that matched the 2080 Super?
I must have missed that, does it run with same LOD? You got the source?
I believe that it was the 2080. It was also a port that they knocked up in about a week. As you can imagine it was most likely not running very efficiently.
So DLSS is the only nVidia feature.... that makes it "loaded"?
DXR is being used by CP2077, which is DirectX Raytracing. Nothing to do with nVidia. It's, as all graphics techs should be really, vendor agnostic. nVidia has RTX cores to do the calculations for ray tracing, but I dare say AMD has a solution as well..
I am planning on the 3080, but I'm at the very least gonna see what AMD has to offer first - and cyberpunk supporting DLSS isn't enough to force me to make the choice
Edit: Here is the article https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-inside-xbox-series-x-full-specs
So your saying that if the xbox is pushing 2080ti performance, delivering similar quality graphics and fps we shouldn't expect the desktop to do the same like AMD aren't capable of making it bigger? Cool.
We can use teraflops for a rough idea if we compare to the 5700xt of course.
It was shown at the end of the XSX reveal and will have specific optimisations for the console.
Can't check this at work, but you could have a gander at this maybe
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2020-03-19-gears-5-on-xbox-series-x-the-tech-demo-analysed-in-depth
Demo looks very impressive I must admit, compared with the 2080 with 60FPS limit though, some salt to take with it.
Performance on par with a 2080 with a Threadripper 2950. Not the Super, not the 2080Ti and with a far from ideal CPU (though admittedly, you're going to be rather GPU bound most of the time).
I'm saying, in this instance, it's unwise to gauge how well a graphics card might perform based on the performance of a cut down version in a console package vs another graphics card in a game where the LoD is not accurately defined. It barely gives you anything and really AMD need to give us a better example of what the performance will be if it can compete before people start buying up nVidia. Give people more of a reason to wait, if you will.
Performance on par with a 2080 with a Threadripper 2950. Not the Super, not the 2080Ti and with a far from ideal CPU (though admittedly, you're going to be rather GPU bound most of the time).
I'm saying, in this instance, it's unwise to gauge how well a graphics card might perform based on the performance of a cut down version in a console package vs another graphics card in a game where the LoD is not accurately defined. It barely gives you anything and really AMD need to give us a better example of what the performance will be if it can compete before people start buying up nVidia. Give people more of a reason to wait, if you will.
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Should not have to break down your own post but its your whining that made no sense.
Your 2080 is holding you back "doesnt cut it" is what you said. The 2080Ti is 35% or so better than your 2080.. and the AMD hardware in the console's is on par or better than the 2080Ti. If you dont get that then I cant help you.
How much VRAM has the 2080? 8Gb. How much VRAM has the 2080Ti? 11Gb
So theres a shortfall here of 3Gb already from your current card. No wonder you cant play "I'm desperate for more FPS to play RDR2 at 4K". It not only has less clockspeed but also VRAM. The bandwidth of the 3080 may save it, but clearly the 2080 cannot cope with 4k intensive games.
Bear in mind this demo was knocked up in 2 weeks yet uses the exact same "Ultra" settings as the PC version.
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