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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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fs123 said:
It would be counterproductive to release anything significant before the 17th since it would only give Nvidia the heads up and allow them to adjust pricing, etc before launch. Once the reviews for Ampere are out then I expect some serious leaks and a launch date in mid October.
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Less counterproductive than having everyone jump straight on 3080s on release day, which is what is going to happen if AMD dont give us some tangible information?
 
Poneros said:
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I really doubt that will have much to do with launch timing :p
 
hyperseven said:
So made up then :rolleyes:
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I dunno, makes some sense when you consider how heavily cut down these chips are and how much power they use. It suggest bad yields.

We will see if it's true or not in a few weeks when they vanish as soon as they go live online :D

Obviously this would have an impact on retail prices which could change consumer choice.
 
Satchfanuk said:
Out of curiosity, does anyone know when the review embargo lifts on the 30 series?

I want to see the real performance figures so that I can evaluate my next GPU purchasing decision :D
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Read back a few pages, someone said the 14th for reviewers to post their findings up.
 
Guess these lines should fit in the right thread :D

humbug said:
This...

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Was part of this twitter string....

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Frank Azor one of AMD's GPU people.

With Nvidia's RTX 3000 release starting in 2 weeks i'm going to stick my neck on the line and say AMD will launch on that October 7 date, Frank is still posting around on Twitter saying more info on RNDA2 will be teased out over the coming weeks.
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humbug said:
With that this giant nugget, pun intended, appeared on reddit yesterday, this thing is a monster... 160 CU's

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Poneros said:
Yes, it's probably far fetched, but supposedly all the details are on the map available if people can figure it out. So says AMD.
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I wish AMD would stop playing games and actually give us something tangible... im tired of waiting tbh.
 
random_matt said:
Great if true, be pretty ****** if the cards turn out not so great.
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It's hard to tell based on what has been shown so far. I mean, there's no denying the improvement but leaves so many unknowns to be answered.

I also worry about AMD's silence. Based on previous knowledge, this could mean anything but I hope it is sandbagging rather than AMD having another runner-up :(
 
Satchfanuk said:
It's hard to tell based on what has been shown so far. I mean, there's no denying the improvement but leaves so many unknowns to be answered.

I also worry about AMD's silence. Based on previous knowledge, this could mean anything but I hope it is sandbagging rather than AMD having another runner-up :(
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I really want to wait, but I need more info on Navi. I'm not waiting till 2021 for a 3080, not sure I want to chance it.
 
Satchfanuk said:
It's hard to tell based on what has been shown so far. I mean, there's no denying the improvement but leaves so many unknowns to be answered.

I also worry about AMD's silence. Based on previous knowledge, this could mean anything but I hope it is sandbagging rather than AMD having another runner-up :(
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There is no bad product - only bad pricing.
If the Navi 21 offers 90% of the GA102 performance for 35-40% of the price (549$ vs 1499.99$), then guess which one will sell like hot cakes :D
 
I don't know where JayzTwoCents got the October 7th rumor from and I've been following these leaks pretty closely. It must have been a date given to him by his AMD contact that he was allowed to share to spark interest.

There is no reason to think Igor's leak of no AIB cards is false as he has really been accurate from what I can tell in the past. I think AMD did have the AIB cards planned for October but Covid probably messed that up and the only thing they could rely on was their own production. I also think AMD got annoyed that their XT launch was just forgotten about after 2 days and they don't want that to happen again.

Based on everything said so far this is how I see it going that maximizes AMD's coverage:

In a week or so we have a tweet from AMD saying "something big is coming" to hold people off buying 3000 series. Live stream announcement on October 7th by Lisa talking about Zen 3 and RDNA 2. Since Igor again stated Zen 3 mass production is happening now we can expect Lisa to say a Zen 3 launch on October 21st. I then expect November 7th for a proper RDNA 2 launch. The RDNA 2 launch in November gets them another 2-3 weeks of reviews and benchmark coverage. In total a good 6 weeks of constant news coverage and videos. Not too shabby. This still fulfills the promise that we would see RDNA 2 GPUs before the consoles and conveniently late November will be the console launch. If AMD play it well they can have themselves constantly in every news site for 2 straight months.
 
No partner cards on launch might not be a bad thing assuming amd have managed to design a good cooler this time around. Already been said it won't be a blower and they've finally clued into the fact that people hate noisy coolers. Wouldn't mind if that "leaked" mock up hybrid card that looked like the Vega LC was an option.
 
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