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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

LoadsaMoney said:

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varkanoid said:
The Xbox Series S Digital Edition is £250 with Directx Raytracing and plays all the Xbox S games - okay its a bit of a cut down Xbox S with not the full fat spec but you can see how that against a £650 GPU looks so you can see how the conclusion of consoles offer better value.

One would conclude the full console is £500 or less so again arguably good value against a £650 GPU
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The full fat console will have a GPU somewhat slower than the 3080 though, I think they've got the speed up to about 12TFLOPS for FP32 in that thing from a lot of common speculation, which is less than half the 29.77Tflops of the 3080. Even by that rough metric.

Richdog said:
Both console and PC have their strengths and weaknesses as a platform, the main strength of consoles being lower cost of entry and their exclusive games. Lets not turn this into some silly PC vs console flamefest.
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This is a trade off however. Console manufacturers can afford to sell the consoles at cost, or even at a loss because they make income from charging royalties for use of their platform. Those royalty costs are passed to consumers in the way of more expensive game titles, rumored to be standard £60 for next gen. Where as PC doesn't have this cost, leading to cheaper £40-50 AAA titles, and realistically much cheaper older titles when steam deals hit. All of this means it's a cheaper buy in with the one off cost for the hardware being cheap, but every game you buy being more expensive, this means you're bled those extra costs over the long run.

If you're a casual gamer who only ever buys a handful of games it's not actually that bad of a deal, you're probably a net loss to Sony/MS in that case, which is a cost they just eat. But most gamers will buy 10's or even 100's of games over the lifespan of a console and if you multiply that cost delta by the number of games you start to see that console gaming ends up more expensive. Let's say the cost delta is £10 per game, that's £100 for every 10 games, but you can get that cost delta up by buying smart, waiting on packs in steam, waiting on steam deals, buying through humble bundle etc.
 
Greebo said:
Prices iof the currency has risen recently which will help that and at triple mining and your quoted 50p per day thats still £45 per month.
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Not quite, it's £15 a month.


Greebo said:
Ethereum prices have soared by 60% recently so I reckon you would make around £2.36 per day atm so £70 per month.
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I did the sums today based on average domestic prices, current ethereum price and a 2080Ti, to get that £15 per month. If the 3 series are multiple times as performant, you may get more, sure.

I agree that domestic customers are not likely to be the competition at the moment, it's commercial operations. But last time round it was both, so even with commercial miners, I don't think we'll see an exact replay of last time.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
This is a trade off however. Console manufacturers can afford to sell the consoles at cost, or even at a loss because they make income from charging royalties for use of their platform. Those royalty costs are passed to consumers in the way of more expensive game titles, rumored to be standard £60 for next gen. Where as PC doesn't have this cost, leading to cheaper £40-50 AAA titles
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30% on Steam! :)

Other than that it's a nice theory!
 
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