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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

N19h7m4r3 said:
How is this any different than the AMD cards that had blow through designs since the Fury cards, and also had big power draws. No one had issues with those. This hardly seems too different.

Even some of the AIB 3080 cards with triple fans, have cut outs in the backplate for the fan at the end to blow through.
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I think its not a big issue, half the heat is exhausted and half pushed up, yeh it lines up with the cpu tower, but all none hydro or blower cards heat goes into the case. It cant be that much differnt, maybe a little bit but barely!?
 
Ah, right, with a further wait for AIB reviews? I just want some pretty graphs to enjoy, not going to be buying one for a while, but I'm still impatient :)
 
Why are people so worried about the top fan on the FE 3080/3090 exhausting hot air up where the cpu cooler is.? How is that any different than normal coolers dumping hot air literally everywhere that will make its way to the cpu cooler anyway..? At least with the FE 3080/3090 part of the heat is expelled outside of the case.
 
z10m said:
Why are people so worried about the top fan on the FE 3080/3090 exhausting hot air up where the cpu cooler is.? How is that any different than normal coolers dumping hot air literally everywhere that will make its way to the cpu cooler anyway..? At least with the FE 3080/3090 part of the heat is expelled outside of the case.
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Probably because the hot air will be focused into a smaller area right into the CPU cooler and over the ram.
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
How is this any different than the AMD cards that had blow through designs since the Fury cards, and also had big power draws. No one had issues with those. This hardly seems too different.

Even some of the AIB 3080 cards with triple fans, have cut outs in the backplate for the fan at the end to blow through.
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There is only one card i am aware of that is similar in design to the FE cards (I think it was by sapphire). Could you please provide pictures of the types you are referring to, so that i can see for myself that it is a comparable situation.

Blowing hot air directly onto another object is very different from passively allowing hot air to be drawn to it. You also mentioned that some of the AIBs have designs with holes in the backplate. How big are the holes? Is the fan area shrouded to direct air through these holes?

As the air is vented from the GPU it mixes with the ambient air of the case, which reduces the temperature of the hot air. It would be interesting to see if the "high" speed of the air coming from the FE GPU fans will impede the air's ability to mix with the ambient air, relative to the more passive air flow we get from standard designs.
 
Hmm so are people going to go for the Nvidia cards because of the these binning stories are for the partner cards because they don't believe it/its not going to be a noticeable difference?
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Hmm so are people going to go for the Nvidia cards because of the these binning stories are for the partner cards because they don't believe it/its not going to be a noticeable difference?
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Don't know where you got that from...maybe the same place you your other news?
 
I also thought that there shouldn't have been a difference between the FE blowing hot air directly on the CPU cooler, and an AIB card spreading the heat around, but still reaching the CPU eventually. But I was watching a video review for the LianLi Lancool II Mesh last night, where the reviewer added fans to the shelf between the PSU chamber, and the main chamber of the case. Doing so reduced the temps of the GPU as you might expect, but it did also cause the CPU temps to go up by (admittedly, only) a few degrees. I just hope reviewers don't ignore this in their testing.
 
Most of the AIB cards seem to be following the same design though as the FE? The fan with the cut out is doing the same thing on the AIB as they are doing on the FE. I.e pulling air up and through the card.
 
z10m said:
Why are people so worried about the top fan on the FE 3080/3090 exhausting hot air up where the cpu cooler is.? How is that any different than normal coolers dumping hot air literally everywhere that will make its way to the cpu cooler anyway..? At least with the FE 3080/3090 part of the heat is expelled outside of the case.
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TBH i can only see it as problem with my Memory overclock cause.

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I got Fan standing on my Titans backplate blowing air directly on to DDR modules. Will need to check Stability after upgrade of memory 2 hours of memory testing hehe. Possible ill need to bump volts a bit ram. Will investigate.


@Adrian1976 this is what I consioder proper Overclockers cooling while at it poped ya photo of my passive radiator with 2l bottle next to it so ya see what sort of cooling power im talking about. Had to move stuff that stands in front of it to grab photo.

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@humbug what ya think ?? hahahaha
 
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Chuk_Chuk said:
There is only one card i am aware of that is similar in design to the FE cards (I think it was by sapphire). Could you please provide pictures of the types you are referring to, so that i can see for myself that it is a comparable situation.

Blowing hot air directly onto another object is very different from passively allowing hot air to be drawn to it. You also mentioned that some of the AIBs have designs with holes in the backplate. How big are the holes? Is the fan area shrouded to direct air through these holes?

As the air is vented from the GPU it mixes with the ambient air of the case, which reduces the temperature of the hot air. It would be interesting to see if the "high" speed of the air coming from the FE GPU fans will impede the air's ability to mix with the ambient air, relative to the more passive air flow we get from standard designs.
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Sapphire have had that blow through design since the Fury, and even with Vega Use it.
Powercolour also did similar with the Fury, and Vega with gaps in the heatsink to blow through.

As for the 3080s.

Many have cut outs, and the likes of Gigabyte actively advertise that blow through

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Galax

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KFA2/Galax clip on fan for that rear cutout to have even more air flow.

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Inno3d

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Asus

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Zotac

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If the FE cooler is actually good this time AIB partners are going to start lose a lot of market share due to cheaper cards and a much better chance for a better chip if you buy direct from Nvidia
 
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