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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

beany_bot said:
Omg when will people realise... The founders card IS the decent card this time!!

It's cheaper
It has great cooling
Its quiet
Is has the best binned chips
It has the best quality components on the PCB
It looks the best.

You would be foolish to buy any of these early AIB cards.
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I disagree.

Cheaper? yes. although there are a couple of AIB currently at the same price
Great cooling? I don't think so
Quiet? at fan stop maybe, not at operating temps IMO. (and I am sure none of the reviews ran it on afterburner for a period to really see where its at).
Best binned? judging from the reviewers spread of overclocks I doubt that.
Best components? Depends which AIB/version, I would say some have better.
Looks? Subjective
 
Vogon said:
I disagree.

Cheaper? yes. although there are a couple of AIB currently at the same price
Great cooling? I don't think so
Quiet? at fan stop maybe, not at operating temps IMO. (and I am sure none of the reviews ran it on afterburner for a period to really see where its at).
Best binned? judging from the reviewers spread of overclocks I doubt that.
Best components? Depends which AIB/version, I would say some have better.
Looks? Subjective
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Overclocked to 2.1Ghz, that's pretty good considering standard boost of 1.7.
 
I would rather the launch date be delayed so you know you can actually buy this stuff. Rather do that than have to wait another 3 months just to get the card usually at a price gouged price. I mean I'm on one site at th emoment and literally everycard has 300-500 people "looking at it, Going to be a paper launch no doubt.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
So the feel im getting from bechmarks is the 3080 probably beats the 2080ti by about 30% at stock speeds rasterization and about double that for that RT at 70% better.

I think thats a fairly normal performance delta for a like for like card. It would be more appropriate still to compare the 3090 to the 2080Ti as theyre most closer price points.

i can see why this is a bitter pill to swallow for the 2080Ti users but this is just what happens at high end, you pay over the odds for hardware that's fater. And has less gains in the next generation. I think some of have forgot that.

People like me running a 1080 and suffererd a generation without any upgrades these are very attractive cards. Nvidia overplayed their marketing and you know what, whatever, it was always going to out very fast after embago day. The cards seem objectively good, they bring native 4k to the masses in modern games, and they add gamers new effects that look nice that can be upscaled in the absecenof raw power.

Ill be getting a 3080 but was annoyingly hospitalized on sat andkonly came out a major surgery yesterday, so camping stoes on a phone is kinda a no go right now
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No you are wrong. 2080ti owners are bitter because Nvidia has pre overclcoked the 3080s to the max and some barely overclock anymore than stock so compared to their overclocked 2080tis, they are only going to gain 10-15% perfromance if they buy a 3080.

They can gain 25-30% performance if they buy the 3090 but thats £200 more than their overpriced 2080ti was.

So really this launch offers them nothing except they have to pay a shedload of money again just to get the same 20-30% uplift.

For anybody coming from previous generations its fine.

Personally I wanted the 3080 to destroy the 2080ti and be 50% faster as the leather jacket man claimed in his misleading presentation.
 
Greebo said:
No you are wrong. 2080ti owners are bitter because Nvidia has pre overclcoked the 3080s to the max and some barely overclock anymore than stock so compared to their overclocked 2080tis, they are only going to gain 10-15% perfromance if they buy a 3080.

They can gain 25-30% performance if they buy the 3090 but thats £200 more than their overpriced 2080ti was.

So really this launch offers them nothing except they have to pay a shedload of money again just to get the same 20-30% uplift.

For anybody coming from previous generations its fine.

Personally I wanted the 3080 to destroy the 2080ti and be 50% faster as the leather jacket man claimed in his misleading presentation.
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This is what I am seeing as well. Most complaints about the performance are from those hoping to move from a 2080Ti for a significant drop in price. They now see that clock for clock the 3080 is not close to the card they were promised by Jensen and have to go for a vastly overpriced 350w monster.

I said after the Jensen BS marketing and before the actual reviews that he was lying and 3080 would be at best 40% faster than 2080Ti at best in rasterisation and it looks like even that is optimistic.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33905812

If you can get a 3080 at RRP it is a decent upgrade over a 2080 or a 1080TI but at the cost of heat and power. If you move to a 3080 from a 2080Ti then you are taking a drop in VRAM for more heat and 30% performance at 4K. How many people dumped their 2080Tis cheap so they could jump on a 2080 that Jensen promised was twice as fast. So I think a lot of them have good reason to be ******.

No doubt Nvidia will be forgiven for this level of lying. Same as they did with the 970 VRAM scandal. Same as they were forgiven for charging through the roof prices for 2080Ti "cus RTX".
 
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