Sometime in September for a 7th October launch is the current rumour being bounced around.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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That makes me decision for the 3080 more difficult then.
Couple bags of Star Mix with every RDNA 2 purchase, but you only get the Tangfastics with the 6900 XTI'll be honest, AMD should adopt OCUK's policy of Haribo
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And dreams of big overclocks...
A touch sensitive?
I'll go nvidia if they put tangfastics in, all about the supermix or goldbearsCouple bags of Star Mix with every RDNA 2 purchase, but you only get the Tangfastics with the 6900 XT
It be faster on Big Dog Navi depending on how the big 500mm core scales but since there are 3 different sizes it may be they scale slightly different in how fast they go but they be fast.
CPU new Ryzen 4 is the likely big thing first and foremost.
But yea it going to be a great couple of months now from amd side.
Unless something special happens October is presentation.
Heathen!
When it comes to endlessly rehashing the same old tripe over and over and over and over and over again like at actually matters any more, when yet again the idiotic mindshare and cluelessness of people is illustrated to the point you can't even have a speculative conversation without some ******* chiming in "but 'overclockers dream' 'poor volta' herp derp, AMD sucks" then yes I am a touch sensitive.
Grow the frack up, contribute meaningfully to the discussion or don't contribute at all. There are plenty of things to pick AMD apart over, stop fixating on tired tropes that are years old.
Wish they would actually just almost skip the AMD announcement and go straight for distributing review samples out to some quality reviewers. They could best NV on this if they got real reviews in front of people vs NV inhouse marketing.
I have been reading this thread and the Ampere threads for a while now. I haven't seen much that could be classed as hype in this thread. Let's look at some facts.
Every single time Nvidia have even a reasonable advantage in GPU performance their prices are set high. Think almost double the price for ~30% performance when they are competing against themselves. 2080 to 2080Ti pricing for example. This is their MO, always has been and always will be. This time we see 3080 priced at less than half the price of the 3090. So Nvidia are low-balling the 3080 and 3070 prices for a very good reason.
For me this alone points at AMD competing with 3080 at a lower price point. Nvidia never do the consumer favours, so if it's priced the way it is then there's a reason for it.
The benchmarks Nvidia leaked are 100% guaranteed to be best case scenario for the 30X0 and worse case for the 20X0. Experience teaches us (well those not prone to hype) that these marketing slides are generally overstated by ~15% or more. For example the Doom scores for the 2080Ti in that leaked performance video had the 2080Ti performing ~15% worse than reality according to some on reddit. Also if we look at actual benchmarks fro earlier this year the 2080Ti was 100+fps average in Doom Eternal 4K Ultra Nightmare. Suddenly we are to believe it is more like mid 80-90 FPS?
So RTX 3080 is likely to be ~40% faster than 2080Ti at rasterisation if we remove the marketing bias official benchmarks usually carry.
- The XBX is RDAN2 with 52 CUs coming in at RTX 2080 Super levels.
- RDNA 2 has higher IPC other other improvements over RDNA1
- Navi 21 should have ~76 - 80 CUs (rumoured)
So even using the XBX as a base we can calculate that Navi 21 should have roughly 50-60% more performance at least. This puts Navi 21 right around 3080 performance.
So not hype, logic.
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well guesswork, as rumours mean very little if they are wrong, for example the rumour the new nvidia cards would have a co processor.
at best its logical guesswork, until we see some numbers even amd's own we havnt gotten a clue outside of the console specs, and to be blunt they mean very little when you take in to account the differences between gaming in windows and in a console environment and how developers use them. you can make educated guesses at what the possible specs could be, but for now no one outside of amd have a clue.
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Agreed, that's all it is atm. But nVidia wouldn't pull the Titan down to being 'just' a 3090 if they didn't have their concerns about AMD so there is hope yet!
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Exactly, imagine how embarrassing it would be for Nvidia if AMD beat a Titan. There is literally no sensible reason for Nvidia to change to 3090 other than to protect the Titan branding.
Now, this isn't to say that AMD will beat the 3090 but Nvidia are concerned enough to change their product launch. Not to mention ramping power usage to the moon
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then a £2k 4 slot 16" long titan
If it happens (and it might do next year along with another Super refresh) it will be more like £3k
Unless you are Coreteks who wants us to believe Nvidias pricing is reaction to economical downturn & an image crisis
https://youtu.be/zOGLmtWDZqE?t=243 AMD are clearly in no hurry & this also speaks volumes about their product confidence:
Unless you are Coreteks who wants us to believe Nvidias pricing is reaction to economical downturn & an image crisis
AMD are clearly in no hurry & this also speaks volumes about their product confidence:
If its true, then we really might see some competing or even better cards from AMD. Exciting times for us consumers!
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