Official Zotac rep underfire on Reddit with regards to the 1 - 3 % lower performance..

justwondering · 20 Sep 2020 at 09:55

Worth a read, I pre-ordered the RTX 3080 trinity...

Not good to read it runs slower than the FE card.. Although the review say it can overclock by around 4 to 5 percent... Making it just slightly faster than a FE at stock.

The rep also states, that Zotac have reduced performance by design, so to make their other cards look more impressive..... Not good.

"It's by design - it's also a way to seperate our higher end models from the basic Trinity models"

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZOTAC/comm...b18-11ea-84c6-0e11989c86eb&utm_content=footer

LeMson · 20 Sep 2020 at 09:58

As buildzoid said, this is the worst 3080 card, jank power delivery for even the 3070^^

FrozenMetroid · 20 Sep 2020 at 09:59

I've not long found out about this and I've started looking into it as I have a preorder with Amzon.DE (Which I don't expect to be filled with their current delivery date-Tuesday) and was wondering if to cancel or not. I appreciate the guys honesty if he honestly meant to say what he did but would I be happy with a slightly slower card. A benchmark on Tomb Raider put the card at running at 89% :-(

Still high framerate but not running at full potential :-(

justwondering · 20 Sep 2020 at 09:59

LeMson said:
As buildzoid said, this is the worst 3080 card, jank power delivery for even the 3070^^

Yep, definitely, should have pre-ordered a Asus..

Hopefully a new bios will fix the situation... But hmmm not a good start.

Best comment on the thread.

"Gamer's Nexus is going to rip you guys a new one for this crap."

Deluxe1 · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:06

I've got this card on pre-order, in the meantime if a better card comes along I'll try for that.

justwondering · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:15

Deluxe1 said:
I've got this card on pre-order, in the meantime if a better card comes along I'll try for that.

Agreed, same idea here... I was not happy when I read the review, the Zotac sounds like a hot potato... 5 year warranty or not, no one likes owning a gimped product... Sounds like it is bottom of the stack... Not good.

Wow the official Zotac rep reply.

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It's by design - it's also a way to seperate our higher end models from the basic Trinity models.

Deluxe1 · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:37

In fact after watching some of that video I'm pretty much certain I don't want that Zotac anymore.

justwondering · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:39

Deluxe1 said:
In fact after watching some of that video I'm pretty much certain I don't want that Zotac anymore.

Agreed, I shall follow the thread on Reddit, as they might fix the issue, but Asus tuf imho for me, hopefully not tough luck.

ProStreet · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:43

I bought a MSI ventus and it has the same power limit issue.. but I don't overclock really anyway.

Parsley · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:45

I wouldn't worry too much about power limits. I get the impression these cards are at the edge of their performance / power curve, so even if you dump more watts into it the gains are going to be incredibly minimal. Nothing like the gains people got with the 2080Ti. And the 3080 already has great performance.

It's also already a power hungry card, do you really want to pump even more heat into your room?

ProStreet · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:47

Also the reason why the zotacs and MSI run hotter is because the fan curve is set on a quiet setting. Ive read adjusting this improves temperatures to the level of the Asus tuf etc.

james.miller · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:48

Parsley said:
I wouldn't worry too much about power limits. I get the impression these cards are at the edge of their performance / power curve, so even if you dump more watts into it the gains are going to be incredibly minimal. Nothing like the gains people got with the 2080Ti. And the 3080 already has great performance.

It's also already a power hungry card, do you really want to pump even more heat into your room?

When it's outperformed by an FE, you know its a damp squib.

The Old School Gamer · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:52

[r/pcgaming] Zotac rep confirms that the 3080 trinity has been hamstrung to perform worse than the FE edition to make flag ship look better.

Take cover, angry customers incoming. :eek:

Poor ZOTAC rep, he never stood a chance.

Parsley · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:54

james.miller said:
When it's outperformed by an FE, you know its a damp squib.

Yeah, but really how much of a difference is there? Don't get me wrong, I would also be annoyed if I had ordered one only to find out it isn't even reference but considering the performance people are still going to get, it could be worse.

The Old School Gamer · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:56

Parsley said:
Yeah, but really how much of a difference is there? Don't get me wrong, I would also be annoyed if I had ordered one only to find out it isn't even reference but considering the performance people are still going to get, it could be worse.

Yeah it's still a 3080, just a no frills poorly built one.
With how the stock situation is at the moment I guess people should just be happy to get one.

The_Arbiter · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:56

After reading i find it surprising that people are willing to cancel pre-orders based on a few percent on a budget model on the 3080 line, but still has a longer warranty than similar priced cards. Along with the rep being open and honest, and the 2080ti seems to have gotten Nvidia a free pass when talking about price gouging.

Maybe i read the comments in the wrong tone, wanting best value for money is perfectly fine ofcourse.

justwondering · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:57

Parsley said:
Yeah, but really how much of a difference is there? Don't get me wrong, I would also be annoyed if I had ordered one only to find out it isn't even reference but considering the performance people are still going to get, it could be worse.

But worse than an FE card... And by design too! That is plenty to upset any owner...to purposely do that is bad...

james.miller · 20 Sep 2020 at 10:58

Parsley said:
Yeah, but really how much of a difference is there? Don't get me wrong, I would also be annoyed if I had ordered one only to find out it isn't even reference but considering the performance people are still going to get, it could be worse.

I dont disagree and I think pricing has a lot to do with it - there are (were, I guess lol) other models available for the same price that were better built. It would make the trinity hard to justify for me. I don't think I'd want to buy such a power hungry card that is purposely worse built than the FE. That doesn't sit right with me.

justwondering · 20 Sep 2020 at 11:03

james.miller said:
I dont disagree and I think pricing has a lot to do with it - there are (were, I guess lol) other models available for the same price that were better built. It would make the trinity hard to justify for me. I don't think I'd want to buy such a power hungry card that is purposely worse built than the FE. That doesn't sit right with me.

Agreed, bad and unfair for the consumer.

SeeNoWeevil · 20 Sep 2020 at 11:17

Rep did post this

Yup - we absolutely think that this should be addressed so we are pushing our HQ for an answer on this or a solution.