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Flake87 said:
Terms and conditions are meaningless as they fulfill the qualifications of an unfair contract where one side gets to write the terms with no negotiation allowed. As soon as someone takes it to court the Ts & Cs will be thrown in the bin.
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How about waiting until there is actually a problem before jumping straight to a hypothetical court case :)
 
Stollaz said:
Given that I ordered my TUF late on Thursday I'm gonna assume that I'm at around 1,500 in the queue (since I can't access the calculator and I never got an email confirmation anyway)... ouch. Looks like I'll use this order as a guarantee I'll get one some time in early 2021 while I look for another option, ready to cancel this pre-order. Unless the batch sizes are huge and frequent, we're all gonna be waiting a while. I knew I should have just bought a partner card early instead of waiting around for founders information for ages until the sites all crashed :))))))
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I'd call OC and make sure your order went through, all successful orders receive an email confirmation and there have been reports in this thread of peoples payment going out but the orders not going through properly. As you ordered on Thursday I would expect you would have a confirmation by now.

My own order went through at 16:30 and I got confirmation a couple of hours after midnight.

Probably fixable for you, but I wouldn't assume the order successfully went through and would call them.
 
"But there is one story I wanted to sit down and make sure I wrote, and that was from an industry source who told me that post-launch there will be "no stock will be available till the end of the year". The first wave of cards is said to be small, very, very small -- possibly the smallest launch in many years."

This is waffle.

Jacob at EVGA advised they expecting thousands of units to become available this week alone. That's one board partner.
 
PCBs are one of the very major componenets required, these would have been produced in there 10000's in the previous weeks.
All metal work would have also been tooled up and manufactured weeks ago.
All compmenents required for the pick and place machines would have been well stocked weeks ago.
It's all a case now of building these cares and putting them together, testing, and then shipping them out, this will be happening 24/7 as we speak.
These AIBs would have done all of this long before the NDA lifted. Its just a case now of how much silicon there is, which I assume samsung has a high yeild as the prices are so good on these cards (this is a contributing factor to the prices of electronics).

The AIBs are all competing for top sales, they cannot drag their feet.

Not accounting for any other suppy shortages, global demand, they will be making A LOT of cards, too much money in the winds that these companies want to net.

OCUK will have a lot of wack with ordering amoung others.

These are VERY large companies with very large manufacturing capabilities subbed out to all sorts of subcontractors.
 
becrazed said:
Can I ask a seemingly obviously question, what games are you all planning on playing with the new cards. I've the amount of people selling 2070 supers and 2080tis suggests it can't be about performance increases from much older cards. I would hazard a guess that the majority of people won't be looking to go 4k, feels like what you have now will still be more than adequate for what you need for the next 3 months, the crazed panic buying here has caused this issue and promotes bounce bot scalpers and in turn everyone complains about supply shortages at launch. Bananas.
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I game at 3440x1440 - mainly Warzone, currently my FPS is around 70-90 depending on the part of the map, so I am mainly getting it as it looks like coming from my 2080 at the res there should be a very decent uptick in framerates. (if this is legit - https://youtu.be/AuGoel96Ym4?t=117 )
 
trawetSluaP said:
"But there is one story I wanted to sit down and make sure I wrote, and that was from an industry source who told me that post-launch there will be "no stock will be available till the end of the year". The first wave of cards is said to be small, very, very small -- possibly the smallest launch in many years."

This is waffle.

Jacob at EVGA advised they expecting thousands of units to become available this week alone. That's one board partner.
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"A release of a product, especially a computer component, in extremely limited quantities, making it very difficult for consumers to get their hands on. The purpose of this is generally for a company to be able to say "we have the fastest chip", before they can actually produce large numbers of them.

Thus, the product isn't really "launched" to the market, it's only launched in press releases, hence "paper" launches."
 
WgizmO said:
"A release of a product, especially a computer component, in extremely limited quantities, making it very difficult for consumers to get their hands on. The purpose of this is generally for a company to be able to say "we have the fastest chip", before they can actually produce large numbers of them.

Thus, the product isn't really "launched" to the market, it's only launched in press releases, hence "paper" launches."
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It wasn't a paper launch though, so what's your point?
 
FoxEye said:
Is it really worth it for a couple hundred quid?

That's a couple day's wages, or less for some.

It's scummy behaviour for not much gain, and you have to deal with the minefield of scammers on the bay.

Well, I do hope the scalpers get scammed, tbh. Would be best for everyone else if the scalpers lost money on this.
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I haven't bought it to sell it, I just wanted a GPU upgrade (3440x1440 on a 1070 is ****!), however I'm sadly not a powerfully built director and so if I can get a few hundred quid by selling it on ebay then I might consider it.
Like I said, I don't need the new GPU, it's not like I haven't got a card, I can wait til next year if needs be!
 
WesleyBurns said:
PCBs are one of the very major componenets required, these would have been produced in there 10000's in the previous weeks.
All metal work would have also been tooled up and manufactured weeks ago.
All compmenents required for the pick and place machines would have been well stocked weeks ago.
It's all a case now of building these cares and putting them together, testing, and then shipping them out, this will be happening 24/7 as we speak.
These AIBs would have done all of this long before the NDA lifted. Its just a case now of how much silicon there is, which I assume samsung has a high yeild as the prices are so good on these cards (this is a contributing factor to the prices of electronics).

The AIBs are all competing for top sales, they cannot drag their feet.

Not accounting for any other suppy shortages, global demand, they will be making A LOT of cards, too much money in the winds that these companies want to net.

OCUK will have a lot of wack with ordering amoung others.

These are VERY large companies with very large manufacturing capabilities subbed out to all sorts of subcontractors.
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Great explanation, thanks!
 
trawetSluaP said:
"But there is one story I wanted to sit down and make sure I wrote, and that was from an industry source who told me that post-launch there will be "no stock will be available till the end of the year". The first wave of cards is said to be small, very, very small -- possibly the smallest launch in many years."

This is waffle.

Jacob at EVGA advised they expecting thousands of units to become available this week alone. That's one board partner.
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But that information is useless on its own,

How many cards do AIB make with other launches?
How many pre orders/back orders do EVGA have? I think there are 2000 on Ocuk alone.
Saying there are 1000s of cards coming this week is useless if the worldwide backlog of orders is 50,000 for your cards. Its still going to take you until next year to clear them.,

So yeah 1000s coming online this week will be good news if there are only 2-3000 preorders worldwide.

Hence know one side of the equation is not enough,.

Its like before the launch when people were saying that everywhere will have stock for 2pm, I kept reminding them that was fine that ocuk might have 500 or even a 1000 cards but no good if 30,000 were trying to buy them.
 
Connorw97 said:
Does anyone know estimates for Inno3D ichill X4 as it's not on the calculator? I know they're a big brand in Asia which might affect UK shipping time but as I got my order in fast on launch day I'm hoping it shouldn't be long before it arrives
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according to Inno3D's Twitter they are 'on the shelves' and recognise OcUK as one of their UK retailers, but that is just a generic statement Gibbo would know what OcUK have ordered and what stock is on its way
 
Reading through a lot of posts on the forum, fills me with a mixture of dread and optimism...

I am only position 53! According to the amazing calculator, however... It's an EVGA Black Gaming...

And looking at posts from Gibbo etc, it appears as though they don't have many/any of them and no idea when they'll get more? I mean position 53 is good, but only if they actually get some before December...

How screwed am I? Or about equally screwed to those in the thousands?

I struggled to get my order through at 14.47. Managed to just refresh constantly and get through. My ip has been banned at another site that rhymes with e flyer because they probably thought I was a bot.
 
SWISS1337 said:
Reading through a lot of posts on the forum, fills me with a mixture of dread and optimism...

I am only position 53! According to the amazing calculator, however... It's an EVGA Black Gaming...

And looking at posts from Gibbo etc, it appears as though they don't have many/any of them and no idea when they'll get more? I mean position 53 is good, but only if they actually get some before December...
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Thats the dilema. Is it better to be a low number on a card which might only come in batches of 10 occasionally or to be no 1654 on a card which there is good supply and its comes in by the hundreds every week.
 
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