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Who's waiting for the 3090 and which brand are you getting?

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My excuses (apart from games and I dont need an excuse) is that i need hmdi 2.1 for my lg 48 cx and the 3080 would just be a sideways move. When SLI works, it would be a substantial drop in performance eg witcher 3.

Plus I edit tens of thousands of 100Mb photos and 4k video so extra umph in the gfx card never goes amiss.
 
Greebo said:
My excuses (apart from games and I dont need an excuse) is that i need hmdi 2.1 for my lg 48 cx and the 3080 would just be a sideways move. When SLI works, it would be a substantial drop in performance eg witcher 3.

Plus I edit tens of thousands of 100Mb photos and 4k video so extra umph in the gfx card never goes amiss.
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Exactly and the HDMI 2.1 for people that can use it is a big selling feature too. Also these new cards do 4k decoding for things like netflix codecs and future streaming services which I found a nice addition too.
 
Purgatory said:
Okay who's going to make tea ?

I think fx1 just wants to let some steam off today and have a rant.. I did same other day too when Nvidia screwed me for a 3090fe 15 times in basket and week before didn't even have a chance to see the 3080 in stock :eek::rolleyes:..

Okay reality time a lot of people are buying these GPUs for work too not just gaming and reality is the people buying them for gaming well hobbies sadly are expensive, name me a cheap hobby ? Life is short let people enjoy what makes them happy, geeze I have spent money I didn't even have to buy something that I needed for work or to cheer me up to get on with life..

The point is not performance fx1 or Vram blaa blaa it's the rude way you dished it out that's upset most of us here, and you are talking to a lot of very knowledgeable people here not redit brats or youtube kids commenting. The guys replying back to you are people you want to listen to when you need help with when your speak and spell breaks down, they will know how to fix it..

All of them know about VRAM issues and none issues but most want to make sure they dont have issues and most here are not using their systems for gaming only... remember that , you are also talking to many professional people that use their computers for more then minecraft or solitaire..


We agree with you about things but the way you are doing it isn't nice mate.. Greebo has even said reality a few times a 2080ti that clocks well is basically a 3080.. with 1GB vram more...Look at the power use of these stupid cards that tells you enough compared to last gen, imagine sticking 400w+ threw a 2080ti and can keep temps under control under a normal environment. What would you get ? ;) Nvidia is doing the old same rubbish when it can't make a card better than its last one by upping the power use to silly levels again as they have done many times in the past when their cards didn't work well (faster than last gen) at sensible power use..

Look at what is happening with these cards 3080 and 3090 crashing... while Nvidia slips a driver "Update" that will as we know make the cards not clock high and keep them from crashing.. The drivers before were for all the e-peen people benchmarking so they can make it look like they are fast.. All reviews after the crashing fixed drivers need to be redone and all benchmarks to give a real performance without crashing... Also wait for AIBs that will push VBIOS updates too.. to lessen the performance of all cards showing problems.

Reality is Nvidia pulled a fast one again on all of us... 3090 is basically a 2080ti with 24gb Vram and almost 50% performance boost at more expensive than 2080ti previously and they are trying to make us justify the price hike because of the 24GB Vram.. which is basically what we are paying for here a better chip with less fused off areas and more VRAM and higher power use.


FX1 we are all annoyed really with Nvidia from people waiting to buy to people that have purchased to people realising reality of what has happened since release of these cards.. But some of us really need an update and some of us really need it for work or as some have done sold their 2080tis and sat with machines they can't use right now. It's really all a big mess and we have only Nvidia to thank for this and the silly fake hype they cause. 2x performance while they try staying quiet about hey 350W radiator you will get for free too.
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Business use is different.

You can claim the VAT and the Tax back on a purchase and that by itselt makes it much more cost effective.

But lets be honest, if you are playing games and including 4K there is no reason to buy the 3090 other than "you want one"

The VRAM thing is a load of rubbish and the game examples people have used here are found to be wrong with one simple google search.
 
fx1 said:
Business use is different.

You can claim the VAT and the Tax back on a purchase and that by itselt makes it much more cost effective.

But lets be honest, if you are playing games and including 4K there is no reason to buy the 3090 other than "you want one"

The VRAM thing is a load of rubbish and the game examples people have used here are found to be wrong with one simple google search.
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This is an enthusiast forum and in particular a top end enthusiast thread. It's like rocking into a sports car forum and accusing everyone of wanting one rather than needing one?

No-one in this thread "wants" your opinion
 
Is the 3090 the optimal card to buy if your goal is to maximize performance/cost? Of course not. Is it the the most performant card on the market right now? Yes, it is, and that's why I'm getting it. I'm upgrading from a 2080 Ti. I'm not selling the old card. I'll just keep it in case I need it for a future build or some other purpose.

I'm fortunate enough that I can pursue the best card on the market without worrying about the price. The 15% boost in performance is meaningful to me. I'd like to maximize ray tracing effects as more and more games introduce them, and such a boost can make a meaningful difference when you have a high resolution, high refresh rate monitor. The boost is already larger than 15% in RTX games, and the gap will only widen as next gen games roll out.

I already have a top of the line build, i9 9900k, 32G RAM, NVME SSD, and the works. The 3090 will be a nice addition.

The purpose of my post isn't to brag. It's to explain that not every financial decision has to be a locally optimal one. I'm sure if one were to dig through the spending habits of those berating 3090 purchasers, one would find plenty of suboptimal purchasing decisions. Do you drink? Do you eat out or order deliveries? Do you travel for holidays? Do you buy something other than the cheapest clothing option available? If you do any of the above, then you're technically wasting money according to your reasoning. Yet, people derive a sense of happiness and satisfaction from such activities, and that's the whole point of spending money.
 
OC2000 said:
This is an enthusiast forum and in particular a top end enthusiast thread. It's like rocking into a sports car forum and accusing everyone of wanting one rather than needing one?

No-one in this thread "wants" your opinion
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This isnt a sports car. Its a GPU. It is not a luxury product. It doesnt afford you any kind of status and nor doesnt it work any different than one costing 40% less. It doesnt even look any different.

Most people have the cash to buy a GPU in their current account. it doesnt change the fact the product was made to lure the easily influenced in to parting with that cash
 
fx1 said:
Business use is different.

You can claim the VAT and the Tax back on a purchase and that by itselt makes it much more cost effective.

But lets be honest, if you are playing games and including 4K there is no reason to buy the 3090 other than "you want one"

The VRAM thing is a load of rubbish and the game examples people have used here are found to be wrong with one simple google search.
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It's already been proven that if gaming in UHD the 3090 will do better than a 3080.
 
fx1 said:
Its just expensive. Its not a luxury product. There is a difference.

Its like saying the tyres on my car cost 2x as much as cheap ones. They are not luxury they are just expensive.
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"The word "luxury" originated from the Latin word luxus, which means indulgence of the senses, regardless of cost"

Surely this is the whole point of you posting here?
 
You are missing my point in general.

Nvidia can now get away with 10% performance gain for 100-150% price increase. They see the demand and now they will set the bar here. By playing their game with your money you will basically ensure you get less for more in the future.

This is my ultimate point.

To be clear. A 3090 wouldnt even show up as an expensive purchase for me. Im more concerned with the poor performance gain and over hype of the card its self.
 
fx1 said:
You are missing my point in general.

Nvidia can now get away with 10% performance gain for 100-150% price increase. They see the demand and now they will set the bar here. By playing their game with your money you will basically ensure you get less for more in the future.

This is my ultimate point.

To be clear. A 3090 wouldnt even show up as an expensive purchase for me. Im more concerned with the poor performance gain and over hype of the card its self.
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Why are you so upset?

I'm coming from Pascal, so I will get 80% boost.
And again. What card are you buying(if any)
 
Shiari said:
Most of us probably would like graphics card prices to go down. People buying the most expensive cards just because they are that doesn't help that very much.
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No good having a go at people.

I don't do drugs of any kind, I don't drink or smoke or run a car.
Plenty money saved right there.
 
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