Right now 4K gaming at high settings is completely GPU bound.
So on a pure perf/$ basis you can get away with something like an overclocked 3600. For a Zen 3 chip, 5600X is plenty.
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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Right now 4K gaming at high settings is completely GPU bound.
So on a pure perf/$ basis you can get away with something like an overclocked 3600. For a Zen 3 chip, 5600X is plenty.
And this is the thing.
AMD will probably claim a small and insignificant victory at 1080P in games, a bit like it is now with Intel but reversed.
In anything ST productivity the 5600X will crush the 10700K
MT probably about equal.
Power / heat and all that, Steve Burke will continue to claim the 10700K only uses as much as its rated TDP in power, everyone else will put the real numbers on slides and that is 200 Watts, vs 80 watts of the 5600X.
So overall the 5600X is the better CPU, and now price does matter, i've said it before i'll say it again, the 10700K is a £220 CPU, why else would you buy it over the 5600X?
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It's got 8 cores?
I see holes in AMD's lineup. Where is the Ryzen 7 5700X at 65 watt?
5600X is not plenty, in gaming at 4K you will get the same results with Ryzen 3 1400X.
The games for some very weird reasoning don't accelerate their performance via CPU scaling like normal multi-threaded apps do..
I think you need a primer on what affects gaming performance.
The FX-8350 had 8 cores....
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Oh sorry I thought you were comparing the 5600X to the 10700K.
Are you getting the point?
It's an 8 core CPU but even in MT it's no faster than the 6 core CPU.
AMD got sued for this lie - it had 4 modules with 8 half-finished "cores" which were not cores but only logics for software threads..
AMD gives you 6 cores for the price of 8 cores.
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Don't assume there won't be a 5700X.
The 3100 and 3300x weren't announced when Zen 2 launched. It's normal to release additional products after the initial announcement.
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What about those that would like an 8 core Zen3 generation chip that costs around the same as the 3700x did at launch? ($329)
I think the 5800X will out perform the 10900K in every aspect and its a little cheaper than the 10850K.
I still think its expensive, i would like to see a None X version at $399, Intel's chip, including the 10850K is overpriced, Again i think they all are now and by quite some margin.
Intel are now the poundshop brand for CPU's, embrace it Intel.
Where and at what price....to close to 5600x pricing makes the 5600x pointless...to close to the 5800x makes the 5700x pointless...
The 3600 was $199.
Ryzen 9 3900X 12-core for $499. Now you have to pay the same amount for Ryzen 7 5800X 8-core + your own DIY cooling.
The 5800x is $449??? Not $499
Ok then I'd stretch to $375 for a 5700x, $75 either side of the 5800x/5600x
Without a cooler? The cooler can cost $50 with ease.
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