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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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q974739 said:
People, when do you think the 5900x will be equivalent to the 6600k?

By which I mean - until recently I was in a 6600k and was going to upgrade this generation because most things were bottlenecked by the CPU. So I had that chip around 4.5-5 years before it no longer held up in gaming.

How long do we reckon until the 5900x again reaches that same point?

Edit to add: Because I'm weighting up a very long life Vs high price
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Should be good for 5 years atleast.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Manual overclocking was worthwhile back in the day. The comments were directed at TNA who doesn't understand the difference between the two.

I manually overclocked a gpu way back in the day and I used software to unlock 2 pipes that had been software blocked so I managed to get a £300 gpu for £120 after clocking and software modding. That was over 20 years ago when I was a kid at high school.

I also manually overclocked my 2500k because that went from good to crazy speeds with overclocking.

However I never bothered with Ryzen as it was already very well tuned from the factory. It was pointless spending 3 days to get an 50mhz and stability.whereas with the 2500k I got an extra 900+ MHz so was worth the effort.

Now I can click a button.so it would be stupid not to.

I'm saying that for the majority software overclocking is quick, easy , safe and it undervolts too and because it can analyse each individual core it's probably better longer term in terms of stability and voltages.

I know the 2500k needed a bit more power to be stable after 5+ years of overclocking.

TNA is having issues with differentiation between the two.

I'm saying manual overclocking in my opinion is pointless. Especially since it gives minimal gains for the time and effort involved.

Clicking a button though. That's progress and easy.
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I am not having any difficulty with anything. You just can't handle being proved to be contradicting yourself and saying that to save face. It is easy to see.

You can't have 30K+ posts here, spend ages replying to me with a bunch of woffle again like last time and then say you have better things to do with your time ;)

I did a manual overclock, got a very good boost on my 3600 and enjoyed every moment of it. So zero time wasted. Whether it is a waste of time or not is not for you to say, that depends on the individual, if they enjoy overclocking then it goes under the fun category not waste of time. So jog on and stop "wasting time" replying to me ;)
 
q974739 said:
People, when do you think the 5900x will be equivalent to the 6600k?
By which I mean - until recently I was in a 6600k and was going to upgrade this generation because most things were bottlenecked by the CPU. So I had that chip around 4.5-5 years before it no longer held up in gaming.
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6600k is different from Zen 3 as it was gimped from the start. Main reason why it's bottlenecking now is the lack of HT.
6700k is still almost good thanks to 8 threads, proven by i3 10100 and r3 3300X still being viable budget options. When going for 6700K I didn't expect it to last this well for 5 years. But it has as there was no real IPC improvement (until now).
Question is, will IPC keep growing?
 
TNA said:
I am not having any difficulty with anything. You just can't handle being proved to be contradicting yourself and saying that to save face. It is easy to see.

You can't have 30K+ posts here, spend ages replying to me with a bunch of woffle again like last time and then say you have better things to do with your time ;)

I did a manual overclock, got a very good boost on my 3600 and enjoyed every moment of it. So zero time wasted. Whether it is a waste of time or not is not for you to say, that depends on the individual, if they enjoy overclocking then it goes under the fun category not waste of time. So jog on and stop "wasting time" replying to me ;)
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:D
 
Participant said:
Anus.
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BOYCOTT anus!

Last time i said to everyone here i asked them for a HPET toggle bios and they said to me whats that? Again same with NVMe on Z87 they expect everyone to upgrade so you can fit in a PCIE ssd? A whole new motherboard where you could just do a bios?


I asked @GIGA-Man and got a bios that had HPET and NVMe on Z87 and i can not really praise the guy enough and always try to pug for him! :D


Again folks, BOYCOTT anus!!!
 
chrcoluk said:
If I have to buy a 500 series board to use these chips then the slim chance of me buying one has just evaporated.
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It looks like you're running an Intel CPU in your sig. Needing a new motherboard for a new CPU should be something you are accustomed to.
 
Twinz said:
It looks like you're running an Intel CPU in your sig. Needing a new motherboard for a new CPU should be something you are accustomed to.
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I have more than one machine ;) I kept z370 from my 8600k to 9900k switch. Without that, that upgrade wouldnt have happened either.

Also given the inflation on motherboards now, I am less tolerant to board upgrades than I used to be.
 
TNA said:
I did a manual overclock, got a very good boost on my 3600 and enjoyed every moment of it.
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I did the same. However, I ran the tool first to obtain the limits and recommended vcore and frequency. Then I did it manually with some minor adjustments.
 
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