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NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Kaapstad said:
It's interesting looking at the Port Royal bench which is all about Ray Tracing and runs @1440p.

The best 3090 score is 68fps.

Even my RTX Titans in SLI can only mange just under 93fps.

This is a very long way short of keeping a 144htz 2160p monitor happy.

I know Port Royal is just a benchmark and not a game but it does show us where we are with Ray Tracing.
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I have been straight up about it saying why I have not bought into RT (way before the current gen releases were being discussed), my limited analysis computed its totally not worth it on any hardware that I can afford - if I were to grab a Turing (or now Ampere) card. I ruled out the 3080 for the time being as its a bit of a stretch but ultimately the supply problem means its after Christmas now, so a definite no from me (cards are creeping up and gouging is not helping). AMD up until this point have had nothing so no choice there.

However after the talk and then announcements of the new Ampere and Navi hardware it has been a right lets see what were at now situation. The brain boxes have been waxing lyrical and getting excited, but its come down to a 3080 will just about cut it for select games but the reality is its going to be Hopper that pulls it over the line. Advertising the *060/*070 cards can do it is not even funny, which is why posts containing advice of people buying the lower end cards of "but get the 2060 as it can do RTX you know!" always makes me cringe smile.

Kaapstad said:
Those don't count as you can not use LN2 24/7.

I was also referring to the OcUK Port Royal bench thread.

Just for a bit of fun lets pretend that we could use LN2 24/7 on a gaming computer.

If you convert that 3090 SLI score to 2160p it would be roughly 75fps, this would be an epic failure on a 120htz monitor.
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Lol, ok this is for Grim:
 
Th0nt said:
I have been straight up about it saying why I have not bought into RT (way before the current gen releases were being discussed), my limited analysis computed its totally not worth it on any hardware that I can afford - if I were to grab a Turing (or now Ampere) card. I ruled out the 3080 for the time being as its a bit of a stretch but ultimately the supply problem means its after Christmas now, so a definite no from me (cards are creeping up and gouging is not helping). AMD up until this point have had nothing so no choice there.

However after the talk and then announcements of the new Ampere and Navi hardware it has been a right lets see what were at now situation. The brain boxes have been waxing lyrical and getting excited, but its come down to a 3080 will just about cut it for select games but the reality is its going to be Hopper that pulls it over the line. Advertising the *060/*070 cards can do it is not even funny, which is why posts containing advice of people buying the lower end cards of "but get the 2060 as it can do RTX you know!" always makes me cringe smile.
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The view I take is Turing and Ampere are great cards for normal performance and faster than anything else available.

Ray Tracing if it works in a game is a bonus but not the main reason I would buy the cards.

The downside with all this new tech is the added cost which makes the cards poor value for money.

It would be nice when Hopper turns up in a couple of years if the top cards sell for no more than around £650 to £700 like the 1080 Ti used to.
 
In the green corner you have Nvidia saying they've postponed the release of the 3070 to get ahead of stock level issues. In the red corner you have articles coming up that a Danish retailer have only received around 100 cards even though they've ordered atleast 40 times that amount.

Everything they have done since September seems to have been a power play to what is incoming from AMD.

I'm probably gonna grab a used 2000 series card at this point, don't particularly want to be associated with Nvidia's sales figures at the end of the sales quarter.
 
Grim5 said:
That's not how it works I would have thought.

If your statement is correct, you're implying that the RTX2000 cards have more than enough Ray Tracing processing power and the bottleneck was the rasterization processing power. Yet path traced games still ran like crap on RTX2000, so I don't think rasterization was the bottleneck and so adding extra rasterization performance to RTX3000 wouldn't have much affect on the framerate if you kept the same RT cores from RTX2000
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The raytracing FPS has increased but only at a similar percentage as the rasterisation which shows most of the gains are just from rasterisation.
 
I'm beginning to think the "Nvidia Next Generation" in the title means something entirely different the last few days. It's looking like the "next generation" are going to be the only ones who see them, all us 30+ aged gamers might just not make it.

:P
 
J.D said:
I'm beginning to think the "Nvidia Next Generation" in the title means something entirely different the last few days. It's looking like the "next generation" are going to be the only ones who see them, all us 30+ aged gamers might just not make it.

:p
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Yeah, maybe @LoadsaMoney should remove that and just call it Ampere 8nm Graphics Card Thread :D

Next gen is Hopper ;)
 
J.D said:
I'm beginning to think the "Nvidia Next Generation" in the title means something entirely different the last few days. It's looking like the "next generation" are going to be the only ones who see them, all us 30+ aged gamers might just not make it.

:p
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I think anyone like me who is over 60 should get preferential treatment when buying NVidia's Ampere cards, we might not last on the waiting list.:D

It's quicker to get a Hernia fixed on the NHS than it is to get a 3090.:D:P
 
scubes said:
Are these cards still having problems ? Seen the other day some poor chap is in the que of 189 fool that .
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As I understand it Nvidia released early to get ahead of AMD and launched with very little stock. Even after a month they are no way near fulfilling pre-orders from launch day. Lol.

So you decided not to upgrade the scubes? Will you be settling for the 2080Ti which will soon be like the 5th or 6th best graphics card? :p;)

For those wondering why I said that, scubes once said he only wanted the best or something along those lines. So I like to tease him about it now and then :D
 
If the stock levels don't improve and if AMD have the same issues, I may just have to go console, already bought an OLED.
 
willhub said:
If the stock levels don't improve and if AMD have the same issues, I may just have to go console, already bought an OLED.
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Would do same mate. We all get covid and the disruption etc. but its been about for months to plan stock to still be distributed. It sounds like they need to focus on the slippers ones who skim off before it reaches the shops. Better news for AMD as they are the inferior pauper brand with driver issues, there should be only 20% after them! ;)
 
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