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[Rice]

Is it daft to consider Navi if you have a G sync only monitor? Mines 60hz?

Honestly this is my big thing about going team red, I would need to get a freesync monitor, which adds to the cost makes the jump harder to consider due to this, not to mention it seems extra performance does come from having a 5000 series AMD card.

 

[CheckCompaniesHouse]

yes, but if a supplier repeatedly supplied fewer or more items than were ordered they would not remain as a supplier. If Tesco ordered 1000 loo roles and only 20 turned up they wouldn’t say “ho hum, never mind, we’ll keep ordering from them”. I work in sales. If a client wanted 10 items and I sold them 10 items but only 5 turned up from the suppliers I wouldn’t say “ oh well, only 5 have arrived, a never really knew how many would turn up anyway” and the client wouldn’t say, “oh well, not your fault I’m sure the number you ordered from the supplier was only a suggestion”. I would get shouted at by the client and would, in turn, be shouting at the supplier asking where the things were I’d paid for, and I would never use them again.

in fact none of this would happen because I would never work with a supplier who would add this less than pleasing random element to supply and demand. OC will 100% know exactly how many items they ordered and how many they are expecting. The only way they wouldn’t is if, when they arrive, other parts of the company decide which part gets which cards and which are going to pre-builds, case king etc.

You are saying this as if OC UK has anywhere near the buying power of Tesco. Perhaps brands like Inno3d or Zotec might be worse off if OC UK doesn't have them but ASUS, Gigabyte, EVGA will do just fine in my opinion. NVIDIA definitely will.

 

[russler]

My ultra wide aoc G sync monitor is the only thing stopping me from going team red, but then again I really like the new gigabyte 3440x1440 Gsync/FreeSync 144hz va for 400 quid for what I’ve overspent on a 3080 master pre order I may even be better off going 6800xt and being team neutral next upgrade path.

 

[jjgreenwood]

yes, but if a supplier repeatedly supplied fewer or more items than were ordered they would not remain as a supplier. If Tesco ordered 1000 loo roles and only 20 turned up they wouldn’t say “ho hum, never mind, we’ll keep ordering from them”. I work in sales. If a client wanted 10 items and I sold them 10 items but only 5 turned up from the suppliers I wouldn’t say “ oh well, only 5 have arrived, a never really knew how many would turn up anyway” and the client wouldn’t say, “oh well, not your fault I’m sure the number you ordered from the supplier was only a suggestion”. I would get shouted at by the client and would, in turn, be shouting at the supplier asking where the things were I’d paid for, and I would never use them again.

in fact none of this would happen because I would never work with a supplier who would add this less than pleasing random element to supply and demand. OC will 100% know exactly how many items they ordered and how many they are expecting. The only way they wouldn’t is if, when they arrive, other parts of the company decide which part gets which cards and which are going to pre-builds, case king etc.

Unfortunately this isn't the way it works in all industries. I work at a major car retailer and we often don't know when parts are arriving. There isn't anywhere else we can order them either. Often cars can be delayed as well and until they consign and we are invoiced we can't say with certainty when they will arrive. I'm sure OC don't have an alternative supplier to go to to get more cards sadly.

 

[Flake87]

The state of the shortages when an RTX2070 Super VGA NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER FTW3 ULTRA+ OVERCLOCKED new fetches £670 on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EVGA-NVI...864334&hash=item1f10d66988:g:oigAAOSw8lte1MTM

 

[spluff]

Wonder if we get an update tomorrow... Hoping to hear the inno3d stock has arrived or is finally on the way..

I think they email every Friday. also they will email if they ship. No worries

 

[Cans-O-Clock]

Folks... those waiting for the next Trio Xs, has anyone got an update?

OCUK informed me that only 20 were about to arrive at their warehouse. Has anyone received theirs yet?

Sorry to say that the goalposts seem to be moving again since this was originally supposed to be a "large" shipment. I.e. +75 units.

(Just for reference I am 51st in the queue).

Where did you hear this?
This is **** I'm 50th so presumed id have one this week with a large shipment.

 

[the pokemon kid]

Unfortunately this isn't the way it works in all industries. I work at a major car retailer and we often don't know when parts are arriving. There isn't anywhere else we can order them either. Often cars can be delayed as well and until they consign and we are invoiced we can't say with certainty when they will arrive. I'm sure OC don't have an alternative supplier to go to to get more cards sadly.

Exactly this, they have likely got a huge order in with the likes of MSI, Asus etc outstanding, however with the shortage the way it is, they are taking what they can get, when they can get it. They have also mentioned once before it gets to the distributer before it comes to them, so it may be that they have said 20 are on the pallet but not all 20 were destined for OC in the first place.

 

[OmniSnr]

You are saying this as if OC UK has anywhere near the buying power of Tesco. Perhaps brands like Inno3d or Zotec might be worse off if OC UK doesn't have them but ASUS, Gigabyte, EVGA will do just fine in my opinion. NVIDIA definitely will.

i’m really not. I am saying no company orders items but doesn’t know how many they’ve ordered and is surprised at how many turn up.

If the Tesco analogy doesn’t work for you, consider a guitar shop. They order 10 Fender guitars. If only 2 arrived they would be a bit miffed, especially if they have ordered 10. They wouldn’t be “surprised” at how many arrived. If they ordered and paid for 10 they would expect 10. There is absolutely no way OC order a random number of graphics cards. They know exactly how many they ordered and how many they expect to arrive and would have paid their supplier accordingly. That seems painfully obvious. The fact that OC are not prepared to say how many they have ordered ( just vague amounts) is probably because not all the ones they receive will go to those that ordered them.

This next bit is 100% me guessing, but the group would have more buying power than the individual companies. So I suspect the group order the cards and then when they arrive they decide the split on which company gets the cards. That would better explain the appearance that OC don’t know how many cards are in a shipment they have ordered and paid for, because until they arrive they don’t know how they are going to distribute them through the group.

 

[OmniSnr]

Exactly this, they have likely got a huge order in with the likes of MSI, Asus etc outstanding, however with the shortage the way it is, they are taking what they can get, when they can get it. They have also mentioned once before it gets to the distributer before it comes to them, so it may be that they have said 20 are on the pallet but not all 20 were destined for OC in the first place.

but they WILL know the size of that order. I completely agree they wont know 100% when they will arrive, but they will know what and how many items they agreed to buy with the supplier. They won’t just say, send us what you got.

 

[OmniSnr]

btw, i am not saying you are wrong and I’m not. This is all 100% my opinion. I’m just trying to rationalise why OC have done such a terrible job.

 

[Dark1]

Despite everything that has been written on this forum warning people, why would anyone place a new order?

Stupid is stupid, but more to the point, why is OCUK 'still' taking pre-orders?, that is beyond belief.

Eh, Eh! Calm down! You can't simply go calling new orders stupid. I've been a long time lurker (joined the forum in 2008, first purchase well before that) and I've not really looked on here before I ordered an Eagle on day 1. I only ordered that ugly card because it still showed they were in stock with next day delivery. Now I'm #70 in the Eagle queue!

If you go to the Nvidia site right now and click Check Availability on any RTX 30 series card, the only link you'll find in most cases is OCUK. If I had only just decided, right I've got enough cash for a 30xx and I want one, I would probably have done just that. Then you get the OCUK link and pr-order options, then decide 'ok, I'll buy a new card'.

I wouldn't start calling new customers stupid just because they're not up to date with 3080 news, and follow what would be a normal purchase flow. I'm happy to wait for my £650 Eagle as I've got my trusty 1080Ti to use in the meantime. I doubt any of these new purchasers had any idea what they were getting themselves into though, so please be kind

And don't say the class="error" text of "UK and Ireland only due to high demand" is good enough to warn people of the entirety of the situation.


...Anyway, good luck to all you lot, however long you've been here

 

[TerrorSoul]

I ordered a RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio on launch day, Still waiting. Last two update emails I've been stuck at 13th position.

 

[OmniSnr]

I ordered a RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio on launch day, Still waiting. Last two update emails I've been stuck at 13th position.

Us too. Was 117th, now 104th. Given that your queue point hasn’t moved i would put our move down to cancellations. This would imply that since 17th Sept OC haven’t received a single card. That’s pretty poor, to put it mildly.

 

[Flenix]

but they WILL know the size of that order. I completely agree they wont know 100% when they will arrive, but they will know what and how many items they agreed to buy with the supplier. They won’t just say, send us what you got.

From what other stores have shown, I'm thinking OCUK said to ASUS something like "We want 1000 cards, here's a wall of money". ASUS sends that order bit by bit, and so OCUK doesn't necessarily know how many cards they're getting in each individual shipment.

That being said, it's really not hard for them to email OC and say "hey, there's X amount being shipped to you now". Considering they need to know how much of the order is fufilled this should've been easy, and possibly even automatable.

obviously there's the distributor(s) between OCUK and the companies but the core elements still there

 

[Cavallino]

I out right refuse to believe this information with all due respect. Whoever told you this must be misinformed. The outrage it would cause if they turned around and said it is now only 20 from 75+ would be absolutely unforgiveable. Have faith and don't worry, they will dispatch from that shipment correctly as soon as this shipment arrives.

I do truly hope you are right..
Unfortunately it did came from OCUK.
To be fair and put it into context they did not say what the follow up was but it was words to the effect of: 20 units are due to land any day now (this was last week).
No mention of the balance 55, but no mention does not mean they havent been dispatched, so I dont wish to create rumours or anything like that and would appreciate Gibbos weigh in on Monday about this...
Transparency above all else.

 

[Teal]

in fact none of this would happen because I would never work with a supplier who would add this less than pleasing random element to supply and demand. OC will 100% know exactly how many items they ordered and how many they are expecting. The only way they wouldn’t is if, when they arrive, other parts of the company decide which part gets which cards and which are going to pre-builds, case king etc.

I guess you've never had to deal with a product that is in serious manufacturing constraint.

Yes, of course OCUK know how many they have ordered, but that has no bearing on how many they are being shipped.

They will get their full order eventually, but it is going to arrive in small sporadic shipments at short or no notice.

Air freight is a mess as well, even without any impact Apple may have had the available capacity is down as much as 50% on some routes right now and last minute bookings are proving extremely difficult to fit in.

So you can believe it or not, but this is not like ordering from a full and fully functioning supply chain right now.

 

[jjgreenwood]

i’m really not. I am saying no company orders items but doesn’t know how many they’ve ordered and is surprised at how many turn up.

If the Tesco analogy doesn’t work for you, consider a guitar shop. They order 10 Fender guitars. If only 2 arrived they would be a bit miffed, especially if they have ordered 10. They wouldn’t be “surprised” at how many arrived. If they ordered and paid for 10 they would expect 10. There is absolutely no way OC order a random number of graphics cards. They know exactly how many they ordered and how many they expect to arrive and would have paid their supplier accordingly. That seems painfully obvious. The fact that OC are not prepared to say how many they have ordered ( just vague amounts) is probably because not all the ones they receive will go to those that ordered them.

This next bit is 100% me guessing, but the group would have more buying power than the individual companies. So I suspect the group order the cards and then when they arrive they decide the split on which company gets the cards. That would better explain the appearance that OC don’t know how many cards are in a shipment they have ordered and paid for, because until they arrive they don’t know how they are going to distribute them through the group.

They will know how many they've ordered - unfortunately, your guitar shop or tesco analogies don't work. I guess you could liken it to the current XSX/PS5 situation. Presumably, OCUK would have known what their launch allocation was likely to be in advance and they have made a decision to accept orders for more stock than they knew they had. Obviously, the supply of this product isn't very good which is why they are now the only retailer left taking orders for the stock they don't have. This doesn't mean that they or any other major retailer knows that they are definitely going to be allocated a certain number of units until those units consign.

The situation is most likely to be like this. Asus manufacturing tries to make as many as possible but is reliant on Nvidia to provide them with the chips to make said cards. When they have made said cards they then ship those out to Asus distribution who then allocates them to the places they are going to go so Asus europe/Asus UK/Asus USA. Once these 2 units have been charged then the local distributor can then allocate those units to their accounts and send invoices to the likes of OCUK. It is then that OCUK will know that they have been allocated X Asus cards and then the likes of Gibbo can chase the delivery of those units.

You are correct to question the group aspect, this could work in the way you describe but I suspect that OCUK probably buys from the UK distributors rather than the European distributors that their German friends will deal with. Perhaps for the likes of Inno3d they may well buy centrally through the group, major brands will almost certainly be through the UK distributor though ie Asus UK, Gigabyte UK etc etc.

 

[OmniSnr]

I guess you've never had to deal with a product that is in serious manufacturing constraint.

Yes, of course OCUK know how many they have ordered, but that has no bearing on how many they are being shipped.

They will get their full order eventually, but it is going to arrive in small sporadic shipments at short or no notice.

Air freight is a mess as well, even without any impact Apple may have had the available capacity is down as much as 50% on some routes right now and last minute bookings are proving extremely difficult to fit in.

So you can believe it or not, but this is not like ordering from a full and fully functioning supply chain right now.

so they can’t phone their supplier and say “I ordered 100, how many have you sent me?”

 

[Hulsie88]

Well, if ocuk can't get the stock in they lose my money.

Currently 75 in queue for ichill x3, managed to order evga fta ultra from France variant of a popular website last week, scheduled for Tuesday delivery owever its unexpectedly out of stock due to amount of orders at same time.

Whoever ships first gets my money. Hope its the evga...