The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[EastCoastHandle]

I really want to know what is going on in the backend for these games were AMD does better than expected like Assasins Creed, Forza and Godfall.

With DirectX 12 titles it's how AMD vs Nvidia approaches asynchronous compute.

Nvidia approaches asynchronous compute with an emphasis on preemption/context swtiching. Uarch. and drivers are optimal for that. Although Radeon can do that as well they are suboptimal which means it basically slows down.

With Radeon they approach asynchronous compute through parallelism. They can completely saturate all the lanes and still perform exceptionally well. Something that Nvidia does suboptimal which means it basically slows down.

The more AMD controls the narrative with console ported games through the correct use of asynchronous compute the more we will see the 5700 XT competing with a 2080 - 3070.

 

[Kaapstad]

What would be interesting if someone was able to test analyse to find out what is making the 5700xt excel so much in certain titles ..i would love to know.

Its a very good card.

Dirt(X) games IIRC tend to run better on AMD cards as well.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

With DirectX 12 titles it's how AMD vs Nvidia approaches asynchronous compute.

Nvidia approaches asynchronous compute with an emphasis on preemption. Uarch. and drivers are optimal for that. Although Radeon can do that as well they are suboptimal which means it basically slows down.

With Radeon they approach asynchronous compute through parallelism. They can completely saturate all the lanes and still perform exceptionally well. Something that Nvidia does suboptimal which means it basically slows down.

The more AMD controls the narrative with console ported games through the correct use of asynchronous compute the more we will see the 5700 XT competing with a 2080 - 3070.

Thanks for the explanation. There some 5700XT owners that are going to be grinning from ear to ear right now.

 

[doody]

Its a very good card.

Dirt(X) games IIRC tend to run better on AMD cards as well.

My 5700xt just turned in to a 2080TI

 

[Xelene]

Steve was hinting at the Ampere cards bottlenecking at sub 4k resolutions, we kind of know this anyway because the architecture has trouble utilising the RT cores fully at lower resolutions. That's why 8k was such a marketing bullet point.

Meanwhile RDNA2 is an absolute rasterization beast and that cache seems to give a pretty good speed up for many card activities. It's shaping up to be the sweet spot for high fps 1080p / 1440p games.

 

[KentMan]

LMAO Sold my 5700X this weekend.. hahaha.. running a 290 at the moment.. im going to my corner now to cry.

 

[Richdog]

2020 hardware launches...

Average cost to wallet: £800.

Average cost to dignity: Priceless.

 

[humbug]

Steve was hinting at the Ampere cards bottlenecking at sub 4k resolutions, we kind of know this anyway because the architecture has trouble utilising the RT cores fully at lower resolutions. That's why 8k was such a marketing bullet point.

Meanwhile RDNA2 is an absolute rasterization beast and that cache seems to give a pretty good speed up for many card activities. It's shaping up to be the sweet spot for high fps 1080p / 1440p games.

Ampere shaders don't scale well at lower res, RDNA2 shaders apparently scale better which is why at 1440P they should be monsters.

LMAO Sold my 5700X this weekend.. hahaha.. running a 290 at the moment.. im going to my corner now to cry.

I feel your pain.

 

[Hotwired]

Better to overperform at 1080 and 1440p than 4k.

 

[Greebo]

Don't like the fact I saw the Asus 6800xt leaked today at a price of £913. Thats not a good benchmark.

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Don't like the fact I saw the Asus 6800xt leaked today at a price of £913. Thats not a good benchmark.

While not ideal it depends on how it performs. If it's a slam dunk on the performance front (25%+) then it could be okay but if it is a measly 5% then we have a problem. Assuming this is the OC model.

Also someone asked if the reference card stops the fans at low temps. Hardware cannucks had the card powered on in the background of their video and it didn't look like the fans were spinning.

https://youtu.be/9BKdFuCvmr4?t=527

 

[Gerard]

Don't like the fact I saw the Asus 6800xt leaked today at a price of £913. Thats not a good benchmark.

LOL they can ram it up their jacksies if they're priced even remotely around that.

 

[roy_g_biv]

Steve was hinting at the Ampere cards bottlenecking at sub 4k resolutions, we kind of know this anyway because the architecture has trouble utilising the RT cores fully at lower resolutions. That's why 8k was such a marketing bullet point.

Meanwhile RDNA2 is an absolute rasterization beast and that cache seems to give a pretty good speed up for many card activities. It's shaping up to be the sweet spot for high fps 1080p / 1440p games.

So AMD will pretty much be the best choice for most gamers then? If Steam surveys are anything to go by

 

[keyser]

Looking forward to buying a 6800 or 3070 in spring, when the refreshed GPU models are out of stock..

 

[Greebo]

LOL they can ram it up their jacksies if they're priced even remotely around that.

I hope it was a mistake and just a placeholder but then again it is Asus and their top of the range card....................

 

[Shaz12]

LOL they can ram it up their jacksies if they're priced even remotely around that.

If it’s beating the 3090 soundly in all games at 1440p and 1080p, it will be priced much higher than 3080

 

[bigfatron]

I hope it was a mistake and just a placeholder but then again it is Asus and their top of the range card....................

Wasn't it Asus that had a 3070 at a price point dearer than some 3080s?

 

[Gerard]

If it’s beating the 3090 soundly in all games at 1440p and 1080p, it will be priced much higher than 3080

It's the 6800xt he was referring to, 6800xt is meant to be $649, which will probably equate to around £620 or thereabouts. Though wouldn't surprise me in the least if asus pushed out a reference card with their sticker on it at that price.

 

[Greebo]

If it’s beating the 3090 soundly in all games at 1440p and 1080p, it will be priced much higher than 3080

Well the same place i saw the Asus at £913, the 6800xt was matching the 3090 at 4k in some games...............

 

[alec]

5700XT beating a 2080TI? Matching a 3070?

AMD's CPU's and GPU's do better in the latest games but that's insane, its jumped up 3 GPU rankings.

Has Nvidia released driver version with optimisations for these games yet?
If not, should retest when it does. Game-specific optimisations could be double digit gains