AMD reference cards 6800 / 6800XT / 6900XT discontinued...

Zernath · 10 Dec 2020 at 19:58

TheMoeBlob said:
My major issue with going with nvidia for me is that I play mostly esports titles and I want the rasterization performance. I am also worried about only getting 10Gb of Vram, I got burned by the 7600k before I dont want to get burned by low Vram on a gpu

Then your choice is clear.

Dontrocktheboat · 10 Dec 2020 at 21:39

TheMoeBlob said:
My major issue with going with nvidia for me is that I play mostly esports titles and I want the rasterization performance. I am also worried about only getting 10Gb of Vram, I got burned by the 7600k before I dont want to get burned by low Vram on a gpu

I would be more worried about the infinity cache and 256memory bit bus than 10gb DDR6X ram. Which explains rather poor scaling over 1440p for big navi.

Navi seems to be designed with next gen consoles in mind, its a beefed up console gpu, peak efficiency at 1440p. Nothing wrong with that as long as its placement and price is good.

There is no such thing as a bad card, just bad pricing.

Like take a 6800xt for £600, is a steal and stunning card for that price. But when is starts touching £700 it enters 3080 territory and gets banged out.

TheMoeBlob · 10 Dec 2020 at 21:46

Dontrocktheboat said:
I would be more worried about the infinity cache and 256memory bit bus than 10gb DDR6X ram. Which explains rather poor scaling over 1440p for big navi.

Navi seems to be designed with next gen consoles in mind, its a beefed up console gpu, peak efficiency at 1440p. Nothing wrong with that as long as its placement and price is good.

That assumes that in the life time of the card 4k becomes the norm across the board for gaming.

I will be at 1440p for a good numbers of years yet so the scaling over 1440p doesn't bother me.

Anyway, textures make a much better visual difference and 16gb of ram will one day be needed for the highest texture. I think 10gb has a much much shorter life span.

Dontrocktheboat · 11 Dec 2020 at 06:26

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TheMoeBlob said:
That assumes that in the life time of the card 4k becomes the norm across the board for gaming.

I will be at 1440p for a good numbers of years yet so the scaling over 1440p doesn't bother me.

Anyway, textures make a much better visual difference and 16gb of ram will one day be needed for the highest texture. I think 10gb has a much much shorter life span.

If you are going to game for next 3 years at 1440p 6-series is defo your answer.

LtMatt · 11 Dec 2020 at 06:36

I wish people would stop saying the 6000 series scales poorly at 4K, when it is blatantly not true when you look at the numbers. What is actually happening is Ampere scales poorly at resolutions below 4K and excels at 4K.

Dontrocktheboat · 13 Dec 2020 at 12:47

Seems AMD have removed all their 6000 series store pages.

This was the 6800XT
Page not found | AMD
Page not found | AMD
6900XT gone too as well as 6800.

They are gone, well they shipped a lot of stock in those 3 weeks of selling them........... :rolleyes:

Participant · 13 Dec 2020 at 13:02

Dontrocktheboat said:
Seems AMD have removed all their 6000 series store pages.

This was the 6800XT
Page not found | AMD
Page not found | AMD
6900XT gone too as well as 6800.

They are gone, well they shipped a lot of stock in those 3 weeks of selling them...........

How can that be when Scott Herkelman just recently tweeted that they'd decided to continue production indefinitely?

Dontrocktheboat · 13 Dec 2020 at 13:08

Participant said:
How can that be when Scott Herkelman just recently tweeted that they'd decided to continue production indefinitely?

Maybe he was talking out ass? Or maybe he just meant USA market not European?

But they are gone...

Chuk_Chuk · 13 Dec 2020 at 13:09

Dontrocktheboat said:
Seems AMD have removed all their 6000 series store pages.

This was the 6800XT
Page not found | AMD
Page not found | AMD
6900XT gone too as well as 6800.

They are gone, well they shipped a lot of stock in those 3 weeks of selling them...........

Or the AMD website is broken
https://www.amd.com/en

Participant · 13 Dec 2020 at 13:13

Getting ready for a huge store revamp and thousands of units live on the site! Sunday's the day for it

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Chuk_Chuk · 13 Dec 2020 at 13:30

Participant said:
Getting ready for a huge store revamp and thousands of units live on the site! Sunday's the day for it .

Nah i think someone just forgot to feed the hamsters before they went home on Friday.

TheMoeBlob · 13 Dec 2020 at 13:43

Chuk_Chuk said:
Nah i think someone just forgot to feed the hamsters before they went home on Friday.

Hamsters are a bit high tech for amds website I reckon

RBImGuy · 13 Dec 2020 at 13:44

Participant said:
How can that be when Scott Herkelman just recently tweeted that they'd decided to continue production indefinitely?

Dontrocktheboat said:
Maybe he was talking out ass? Or maybe he just meant USA market not European?

But they are gone...

Yea, not trusting an official statement, weird forum user

FoxEye · 13 Dec 2020 at 14:09

Participant said:
How can that be when Scott Herkelman just recently tweeted that they'd decided to continue production indefinitely?

Well we could have read too much into that statement.

He didn't say the ref would continue to be sold at RRP.
He didn't say the ref model would continue to be sold at AMD.com

They might just ship the ref model to retailers and they might charge above RRP.

Besty · 13 Dec 2020 at 14:29

I think selling the reference model for a slightly higher price via etailers is better for everyone on the basis that the etailers can cope better.

I think selling a reference model direct is a good idea in theory but neither AMD or Nvidia have the time or the inclination to do it properly.

Whilst the reference AMD cards are great build quality, they are intentionally gimped and i will just end up voiding my warranty. On that basis they are great for vanilla builds but I don’t see it as a major issue if they stopped doing them.

GhostDog1981 · 13 Dec 2020 at 15:20

Mesai said:
Might see more consistent pricing once these preorder queues finish, whereas AMD partner cards are nowhere near MSRP from day 1.

I’d be happy with either card, but anything over 700 for the 6800XT is terrible value. Maybe their reference cards were too good.

I'm sure most people would love to get their hands on a 6800XT for £700-800 - I don't think it matters an extra 50-100 quid for folks shopping in this segment of the GPU market

FoxEye · 13 Dec 2020 at 15:23

Besty said:
Whilst the reference AMD cards are great build quality, they are intentionally gimped and i will just end up voiding my warranty. On that basis they are great for vanilla builds but I don’t see it as a major issue if they stopped doing them.

Yes but the alternatives (non-ref) are £150+ more expensive.

The ref models are the only ones in budget for a lot of us. And at the higher prices, the nV cards look better instead.

JediFragger · 13 Dec 2020 at 15:24

Don't be concerned with the quality of the 6800-series heatsinks if they're cheaper than the other models in AiB lineups, they're nothing like past ones they're *fantastic* :cool:

Mesai · 14 Dec 2020 at 10:01

GhostDog1981 said:
I'm sure most people would love to get their hands on a 6800XT for £700-800 - I don't think it matters an extra 50-100 quid for folks shopping in this segment of the GPU market

It's actually 100-200 over MSRP (599), which is terrible value. Anything over 700 and you should be getting an RTX 3080.

GhostDog1981 · 14 Dec 2020 at 12:45

Mesai said:
It's actually 100-200 over MSRP (599), which is terrible value. Anything over 700 and you should be getting an RTX 3080.

Thanks MSRP is only on paper, many etailers charging £100 more for reference models and 150-200 more for Overclocked versions.

right now we don’t have much choice if we want to finish builds before Christmas.

Your point is taken and I agree pains me to spend over recommended prices but needs must.