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A SUV isn't required to move people around though, it's a car on stilts, end of story.

Pretty sure that my crappy old Cavalier was capable of holding 2 adults and 3 children in reasonable comfort, and didn't require 30% more materials to build.

Nothing against people buying them, but they act like they are some how needed, when they are not.
 
Journey said:
A SUV isn't required to move people around though, it's a car on stilts, end of story.

Pretty sure that my crappy old Cavalier was capable of holding 2 adults and 3 children in reasonable comfort, and didn't require 30% more materials to build.

Nothing against people buying them, but they act like they are some how needed, when they are not.
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Right, but it didn’t have 150mm of high voltage batteries under the feet through did it... which was the point I made.

Crossovers are cars on stilts. SUV and 4x4 tend not to be.

PS. I’m happy to agree your Cavalier was crappy though. :)
 
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Arguing about what is 'necessary' in cars is such a pointless endeavour, if cars were based purely on need rather than desires and preferences then you'd only have about 5 different kinds of car because outside of having wheels, seats and some windows, you don't 'need' much else :p
 
Look at China NEV for a similar miles/kWh classification system.

or tax based on electricity supply/generation? What exactly are you trying to legislate with a tax system?
 
KW/hr tax, right, seems close to petrol approach, even fairer, as pollution damage will be equal for all bev's (bar road damage and manufacturing CO differential),
versus ICE where burn efficiency is a lot more wide-ranging - turbos, lean burn ...
but - an appropriate on-board legal measurement system would haved to be retrospective.

Jonnycoupe said:
Look at China NEV for a similar miles/kWh classification system.
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so they have tax based on miles/KWh .... ? haven't immediately spotted this via google - only https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_energy_vehicles_in_China
 
I'm still talking about it in context of levelling up the +30-50% increased electricity consumption of an suv bev, with poor CdA, versus a saloon.
 
Just had my renewal quote through from Plug Insure, and it's an eye-watering £606.49! Been using them for four years, and each year it's been just £274.99, so quite an amazing jump. Turns out Ageas (the underwriter) is refusing to insure EVs now, and the renewal is with Zenith.

Was good while it lasted. Still saved me hundreds of pounds over four years. Best I could manage for this year was £380 from Aviva.
 
So still looking at Electric vehicles on the NHS scheme and after looking today the new 208 is available to order.

On a 10k all in lease through the salary sacrifice its coming in at £185 per month...the car looks great so might be tempted to go have a look round one.
 
GinG said:
So still looking at Electric vehicles on the NHS scheme and after looking today the new 208 is available to order.

On a 10k all in lease through the salary sacrifice its coming in at £185 per month...the car looks great so might be tempted to go have a look round one.
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They are really nice, and at £185 it's a silly bargain. :)
 
RoboCod said:
You misinterpreted, I'm not looking down my nose at anything. Do you own a Lexus or something?

However, I will contest that those people pursuing "green" probably aren't if they choose a big SUV.
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Then I apologise if I misinterpreted. My first EV was a Tesla Model 3 Performance that I crashed spectacularly and wrote off. As punishment (not really) I now have a Hyundai Kona Electric on a 12 month lease because it was literally available immediately and I very much like it but I do have £1000 invested in the deposit on a 2021 Tesla Model S Plaid. Which given that I struggled with 500PS in the M3 Performance probably isn’t the smartest move in the world.

I’m not anti-SUV, and I think people should have as much choice as possible. Even if they are brick-like and have he motor and inverter stuffed under the bonnet where the ICE should go.

I’ve never had a Lexus but my father had an LS400 from new in the late 1990s and he didn’t trade it in until about 2012 but they looked after him and the car like he was royalty. Not even expensive for servicing either. If you want to experience pain-free motoring, Lexus is the brand that really excels.
 
Anyone using NeedToCharge? I’ve just used it to politely hustle someone off a Pod-Point charger at Lidl. The Nissan Leaf in question had been there 3 hours and when I spoke to the driver he’d just left it there while he and his wife went shopping in town. Fair enough and he came pretty quickly when asked.

It seems a nice, polite, system.
 
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Anyone using NeedToCharge? I’ve just used it to politely hustle someone off a Pod-Point charger at Lidl. The Nissan Leaf in question had been there 3 hours and when I spoke to the driver he’d just left it there while he and his wife went shopping in town. Fair enough and he came pretty quickly when asked.

It seems a nice, polite, system.
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Never heard of it, but just downloaded. Shame you have to register. I've been tempted to stick my number on the underside flap as sometimes I'm charging purely because I can but not because I need to... but then publicly advertising my number will only ever end in annoyance.
 
So the Leaf driver I asked to move had a note saying ‘if my car has finished charging please enter the registration number into NeedToCharge and I’ll come and move my car.’

Much better than leaving your phone number or e-mail address in the windscreen. The person asking you to move only sees your registration number.
 
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