Are joggers the new cyclists?

Making this a slightly meta topic:

I cycle a lot and frequently experience joggers in my cycle lane, going against the flow of traffic, at night, with no reflective gear on.

Annoys the hell out of me.

At least they can see the traffic I guess. I've found joggers without reflectives and back to traffic in Richmond Park when it's absolutely pitch black before (besides the portable sun on my handlebars). Crazy.
 
At least they can see the traffic I guess. I've found joggers without reflectives and back to traffic in Richmond Park when it's absolutely pitch black before (besides the portable sun on my handlebars). Crazy.
I think if you walk aren't you meant to go against the flow of traffic? Its not hard to wear high vi's, I've seen some cyclists wearing this jacket that flourecss (not sure on spelling) whenever light catches it, makes it pretty obvious when are there.
 
If someone who is running in low light doesn't make themselves visible to a huge heavy chunk of metal thats travelling at high speed then they shouldn't really be doing it.

If they get hurt it's not really the drivers fault in most cases. It should really be made law and at the discretion of a police officer if the jogger or walker is visible enough or not if they witness someone running or walking in certain conditions.
 
In France outside town, in low light hi-viz is mandatory for cyclists - not sure if same applies to road runners/walkers (FTWD?)

cyclists with lights in the uk - should also realise, a light alone with ninja suit, does not catch motorist eye as much as a few square feet of high viz.
 
cyclists with lights in the uk - should also realise, a light alone with ninja suit, does not catch motorist eye as much as a few square feet of high viz.

Wearing bright coloured clothing, having flashing lights on whilst in broad daylight does not catch motorists eyes quite often. Some motorists just don’t look properly, if they don’t see a car or bigger they just don’t see anything. It’s exactly the reason why cyclists and motorbikes get pulled out on so often
 
Most of the cyclists around my town can't see red apparently. I see more jumping lights than not. I think that is where most get hit.

Anyway, I once almost clipped a jogger along a rural road at night. He was in all black clothing. You just can't see them until you are right on top of them :/
 
Wearing bright coloured clothing, having flashing lights on whilst in broad daylight does not catch motorists eyes quite often. Some motorists just don’t look properly, if they don’t see a car or bigger they just don’t see anything. It’s exactly the reason why cyclists and motorbikes get pulled out on so often

Its a case of every little helps. There's no harm doing it and it might just save your life. Unfortunately yes, some people still won't see it. Prime example being the police officer who was nearly killed earlier in the week when he was helping a broken down car and a 78 year old woman drove straight in to his fully illuminated and reflective police car which was pushed over the top of him.
 

due -diligence https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/new...t-from-car-after-crash-on-m61-near-farnworth/ rubberneck accident.
equally with 2nd example if driver is asleep all bets off.
... only god & which manufacturers? active cruise/radar will help - teslas not lidar so tin foil won't help ? I need to bin the carbon frame.
 
I think if you walk aren't you meant to go against the flow of traffic? Its not hard to wear high vi's, I've seen some cyclists wearing this jacket that flourecss (not sure on spelling) whenever light catches it, makes it pretty obvious when are there.
Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Those grey (in daylight) reflective jackets seem to have become a general fashion item among some youngsters too.
 
The blue hi-vis works best I think. You see blue before any other colour which is why blue light stand out so well.

You sure about that.

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Loads have started running on the roads now where I live I'm guessing because the roads are more grippy in the cold conditions at the moment.
pavements get coated in a thin layer of ice from the frost where I live far quicker than the road surface does.
I'm not talking late either from around 6pm onwards.

Nike do some really good running trainers with a reflective coating.
I had some navy blue ones looked like regular trainers until you shine a light on them
 
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The blue hi-vis works best I think. You see blue before any other colour which is why blue light stand out so well.

It's definitely green, which is why my bike lights are green LEDs they especially help with terrain definition off-road.

Also in my shooting days why green lasers were used as they're easier to see than the standard red.

Also why trendy blue tint car lights aren't especially good Vs yellowish tint. Yellow being a bit behind green I think.
 
who knew ?google green for max sensitivity in daylight but shifts to blue/500nm as it gets dark.... I usually run at dusk; seems those blue car lights may have more benefits.

irrespective personally went for orange, works good in fog and gives more contrast versus most surroundings, looking like grass/sky in daylight may not be ideal.
the coloured section of the viz jacket is not usually retro-reflective anyway (ie reflecting back car headlights) the retro-reflective bit is colourless for max efficiency - some kind of metallized particles
 
who knew ?google green for max sensitivity in daylight but shifts to blue/500nm as it gets dark.... I usually run at dusk; seems those blue car lights may have more benefits.

irrespective personally went for orange, works good in fog and gives more contrast versus most surroundings, looking like grass/sky in daylight may not be ideal.
the coloured section of the viz jacket is not usually retro-reflective anyway (ie reflecting back car headlights) the retro-reflective bit is colourless for max efficiency - some kind of metallized particles

The condition for barely being able to see for blue to be the best colour is not good and wouldn't apply to a headlight since it immediately removes the low light issue.
 
who knew ?google green for max sensitivity in daylight but shifts to blue/500nm as it gets dark.... I usually run at dusk; seems those blue car lights may have more benefits.

irrespective personally went for orange, works good in fog and gives more contrast versus most surroundings, looking like grass/sky in daylight may not be ideal.
the coloured section of the viz jacket is not usually retro-reflective anyway (ie reflecting back car headlights) the retro-reflective bit is colourless for max efficiency - some kind of metallized particles

Holy crap, Nasher was right!

The condition for barely being able to see for blue to be the best colour is not good and wouldn't apply to a headlight since it immediately removes the low light issue.

Guess we're back to all wearing black then since apparently headlights stop it being an issue!
 
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Stupid thing to say.

We'd wear colours to reflect light we have high sensitivity to. The blue factor applies in extremely low light levels which you wouldn't have in front of a headlight.

Except you're forgetting that blue is best in low light conditions where people don't necessarily use headlights. I.e. dusk, Dawn, heavy rainfall.
 
It's definitely green, which is why my bike lights are green LEDs they especially help with terrain definition off-road.

Also in my shooting days why green lasers were used as they're easier to see than the standard red.

Also why trendy blue tint car lights aren't especially good Vs yellowish tint. Yellow being a bit behind green I think.

Yellow light wavelength has the best penetration, so goes through fog better.


You sure about that.

But for some reason the brain processes blue first. You always see blues above other colours in peripheral vision.
 
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