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inferno said:
Tesla will be the biggest company in the world someday. Elon is literally changing the world. He is making rockets take off and fly back down to earth and land on platforms in the sea. Go watch one of those videos and let it sink in what he is doing. You will see why Tesla is going to wipe the floor with other vehicle and power companies.

I saw the light too late, but I am happy I have seen it at last.
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you do understand SpaceX is not part of Tesla at all right? they are separate entities just because you own tesla does not mean you own spaceX.

people act as if a share in tesla is share of elons soul itself, it's just one of his companies that he could abandon for another.

musk said before it will have it's own IPO, and if it did get added as a Tessla subsidiary then your shares would get diluted.

anyway pretty sure amazon will be the worlds biggest company, they are already 3rd

walmart is top
  • Revenue (TTM): $542.0 billion
  • Net Income (TTM): $17.9 billion
tesla in comparrison the same year 8.77b revenue and 331mil net income, seems tesla has a long way to go.

elon can sell tesla and buy every other car manufacturer combined yet? maybe he should just sell tesla and buy walmart
 
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platinum87 said:
That's fake news, burry does not announce his trades.

His trades are looking for high level value, he is probably investing in travel companies now, airlines and so forth, along with travel based retail, and probably oil
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Perhaps not, but I think he's referring to a now deleted tweet of late as well as his December 'announcment': https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-tsla-michael-burry-enjoy-while-it-lasts

Anyway, didn't particularly want to fuel the weekly Tesla debate :D
 
pioneer2000 said:
Don’t the Chinese have a habit of lying about these sorts of things...
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all of them?

I've been watching NIO since around 40.
tempted recently, people might see tsla as way over valued, look at it's cheaper brother NIO and realise it could be the next hype train to jump on.

but on the other hand is it just the fear of missing out.
I like to be more rationale but then it's not rationale raising most stocks..


seems most stocks are so over valued, only small cap are left with a good P/E, people are putting money in to bitcoin instead because the market looks bad?

I guess one could argue there's just more people interested and invested in the market than ever now because it became so accessible to anyone.

how imminent is a collapse if money doesn't keep going in to the market at the current rate? people are starting to get used to big gains, if stocks sow down will the money come out rapidly.
 
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arknor said:
how imminent is a collapse if money doesn't keep going in to the market at the current rate? people are starting to get used to big gains, if stocks sow down will the money come out rapidly
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Is my fear.

Lots of people at home not much else to do, they invest in a stock and like most stocks it's gone up, so they think that was easy I only put £100 now what if I put £10k instead, that goes up a little too, so they feel safe and secure and let this random stock go up.

I can't bring myself to invest much right now due to this and its unfortunate as had I like many others done it, I'd have too good too be true gains right now.
 
Apex said:
Is my fear.

Lots of people at home not much else to do, they invest in a stock and like most stocks it's gone up, so they think that was easy I only put £100 now what if I put £10k instead, that goes up a little too, so they feel safe and secure and let this random stock go up.

I can't bring myself to invest much right now due to this and its unfortunate as had I like many others done it, I'd have too good too be true gains right now.
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people are terrified America will stop printing money, all the inflation is going to the markets instead it seems....

I honestly wonder if the biggest financial collapse ever in the history of mankind will happen in the next few years, one big country could easily have a massive domino effect if inflation gets out of hand.

seems inflation is the only thing keeping American going right now.

all that money that would once have been sat in bank accounts etc, to be invested by banks now just sitting it bitcoin right? so it's like a blow to the economy in itself?

Guess we can expect INRG to keep doing well short term
 
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arknor said:
all that money that would once have been sat in bank accounts etc, to be invested by banks now just sitting it bitcoin right? so it's like a blow to the economy in itself?
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They money is all in bank accounts.

Sell bitcoin and the money moves from someone else's account to your account, the same is true for stock.
 
pioneer2000 said:
Don’t the Chinese have a habit of lying about these sorts of things...
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Chinese government, or Chinese companies and people? Or just all of them? I don't see your point and I don't see why a reasonably established company, looking to gain a significant foothold in a fast growing industry would want to damage it's reputation by blatantly lying.
 
arknor said:
all that money that would once have been sat in bank accounts etc, to be invested by banks now just sitting it bitcoin right? so it's like a blow to the economy in itself?
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No money is sitting in bitcoin, money that was in the bank account of a bitcoin buyer is now in the bank account of a bitcoin seller (or exchange account). That in itself isn't a blow to the economy...
 
arknor said:
people are terrified America will stop printing money, all the inflation is going to the markets instead it seems....

I honestly wonder if the biggest financial collapse ever in the history of mankind will happen in the next few years, one big country could easily have a massive domino effect if inflation gets out of hand.

seems inflation is the only thing keeping American going right now.

all that money that would once have been sat in bank accounts etc, to be invested by banks now just sitting it bitcoin right? so it's like a blow to the economy in itself?

Guess we can expect INRG to keep doing well short term
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There are definitely some inflated prices out there but also consider that a lot of companies/industries are still below where they were prior to the crash; a lot of that money has shifted to tech and clean energy.
 
Well, pretty happy with my exit on INRG on Thursday. Going to wait and see what happens on the US opening before I think about re-entering.

With the bitcoin collapse in people's minds I think we may have a twitchy few days.

Going to hang on to these.

BATG (battery tech etf)
ESPO (video game etf)
VHYL (FTSE)
RR
IAG

BATG is holding up, thought it might drop off with INRG, but it hasn't been as overbought.

Might buy a gold ETC in case the markets do have a proper wobbly.
 
Gaygle said:
Yeah good get out. What's happened to INRG? I can't see any reason for its sharp slump?
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Profit-taking I suspect, the good news with the Biden win and Dems taking the senate has all happened. Will have to wait until he's in office before there's substantive 'good news' for the clean energy sector.
 
mid_gen said:
Profit-taking I suspect, the good news with the Biden win and Dems taking the senate has all happened. Will have to wait until he's in office before there's substantive 'good news' for the clean energy sector.
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I sold at 1409 Friday and bought back at 1357 this morning :D

Guess a lot of people did similar it seemed like it was the time to secure profits
 
Did anyone get into ZOM last week when it game up, I'm up a wee bit on that one with today's leap...
Ameritek as well..
 
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