Do I have a dodgy X570 tomahawk Motherboard?

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For background I'm building a new PC which means I have the following components:-
1 New MSI X570 tomahawk motherboard
1 second hand 2080 ti graphics card (new to me)
1 second hand 3800X ryzen processor (new to me)

case is a new Lian li o11 and the power supply is a corsair SF750 that I have from a previous build last year.

2 existing NVME drives
2 existing ddr4 memory sticks
1 existing ryzen 3600 processor
1 existing 1080 graphics card

The existing items I've had for ages and not had problem with.

To begin with I built the system and tried to boot into an existing windows installation - that failed. After 3 attempted boots I created a fresh install of windows on the other nvme drive and wiped the first.
The installation worked until Windows tried to install the nvidia when it crashed.

Thinking it was a graphics card issue I replaced the 2080 with the 1080 and - same issue (works until you start an geforce driver install then windows reboots 20% of the way through)
To rule out the memory - I've tried all 3 variations and all have the same issue (works until you start a driver install then windows reboots 20% of the way through)
To rule out the cpu I swapped it and its the same again (windows works until you install the nvidia driver then reboots 20% of the way through installation).
I've also updated all the drivers (except the graphics card) and the bios but I'm still getting the same issue.
Am I correct in saying that there is something wrong with the motherboard as I cannot think of anything else to test (and yes I would have returned it ages ago except trying to find a decent motherboard at the moment is a complete nightmare).
 
I'd suspect the PSU first, then system stability. Maybe the ram not stable at XMP. It could be the board, but I don't think it's as likely.

Do you have spare parts for testing?
 
Yes, CPU (swapped), memory (using a single chip and not in XMP mode). And on the previous motherboard using the same power supply and the same memory and the 1080 (which I'm currently using) everything was fine.

i've ordered the only vaguely suitable PSU that is in the river's warehouse and will use that to test things tomorrow
 
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Have you installed the chipset drivers? Tried a different (preferably way older) graphics card driver? Tried extracting the drivers somewhere else (like an old spinner)? Installing the graphics card in the second slot?
 
Tetras said:
Have you installed the chipset drivers? Tried a different (preferably way older) graphics card driver? Tried extracting the drivers somewhere else (like an old spinner)? Installing the graphics card in the second slot?
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yes - I have installed all the chipset drivers - I've not tried an older driver but given that the current one has been released for a few weeks I don't think it's a bug in that. I'm not going to change the slot as a water cooled 2080 ti is a rather heavy card to have in horizontally.
 
spolsh said:
What, so the 2080ti is on a riser ? I'd try it in the slot just to rule out a dodgy riser cable.
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Sorry no it's horizontal but the first slot has "steel armor" and the other slot doesn't - I wouldn't want to be using the other slot.
 
pandem0nium said:
I'd suspect the PSU first, then system stability. Maybe the ram not stable at XMP. It could be the board, but I don't think it's as likely.

Do you have spare parts for testing?
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And with a replacement power supply everything works fine - so it's not the board, the power supply was the problem. Thanks for the suggestion I really wasn't expecting it to be the problem ..

Now I just need to find a decent 750w power supply that is in stock somewhere.
 
Weirdly, I am having a very similar issue with my new x570 Tomahawk. What caught my attention is the fact that you were crashing during an Nvidia driver install, which is what happens to me too. I've also got random artifacting all over the screen seemingly at random (horizontal broken lines during startup) and regular BSODs.

I've had 'Page fault in non paged area' and 'TDR video failure' on the BSODs.

I suspect my GPU (which is new - a 2080ti) but it's strangely similar to your issue... My PSU is a Superflower 750w leadex III which was working fine on my previous system so really can't see why it would be that. I don't have another one to test though..
 
Hey, im so happy that I just found this post. I am having the exact same issues as you describe with the same motherboard. Im upgrading from a x470 and all my parts were working perfect until I tried to install them on the x570 tomahawk. I would get bluescreen every time I tried to install windows, sometimes it would almost finish and would bluescreen or just restart for no reason. Like you I tried changing everything I could apart from the PSU and CPU. I RMAd the motherboard to MSI who flashed the BIOS and sent it back to me without testing. The issues still existed and MSI asked to have it back again. They then put it through every test they could and couldnt find an issue so they are now sending the board back to me again. btw this has been going on with MSI for three months now... They accidentally sent the board back to me the second time without testing so it had to be sent back a third time haha.

Anyway, Now over the last few weeks my current system has had a couple of BSOD, a random restart and ****** up graphics while playing COD but only once. These have all been instanced far apart too so originally I put it down to just random events until MSI told me today that they have tested my board by running a suit of tests including installing windows etc.

I decided to test my PSU with a tester that I bought from Amazon and the 12v rail is sitting at -11.7v and + 12.1v and every other voltage is fine as is every other cable. I suspect that these x570 tomahawks are pulling more power from causing a the 12v rail to fluctuate more or something. When I get the board back from MSI I will borrow my cousins working PSU and test with that and hopefully that will be the issue resolved.
 
I got my replacement 1TB Seagate firecuda520 When installed got random DBSOS regardless of the Slot. When booting to it to install windows i get to about 15% then get Error:0X800701B1 A device which does not exist was specified‘ is a Windows 10 error code that indicates a drive is not present.

STARTING TO THINK THIS IS NOW THE 2ND DODGY TOMAHAWK BOARD IVE GOT :(

 
pigeonguyuk said:
I got my replacement 1TB Seagate firecuda520 When installed got random DBSOS regardless of the Slot. When booting to it to install windows i get to about 15% then get Error:0X800701B1 A device which does not exist was specified‘ is a Windows 10 error code that indicates a drive is not present.

STARTING TO THINK THIS IS NOW THE 2ND DODGY TOMAHAWK BOARD IVE GOT :(
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I eventually got my issue sorted out. So basically, **** knows why, my 3600 is really sensitive with this board and required me manually setting the voltage to 1.365v and then all my BSOD went away and I runs perfect now.
 
AndyHardie said:
I eventually got my issue sorted out. So basically, **** knows why, my 3600 is really sensitive with this board and required me manually setting the voltage to 1.365v and then all my BSOD went away and I runs perfect now.
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im changing my psu soon so a season 850w platinum and upgrading to a 5600x. and waiting on midrange 66/6700 GPU so i'll wait to done those upgrades before decide if i just change out the board. Id assue if PSU related it would be an issue even with gen3 drive. GEN4 drive indicates either board or cpu.
 
pigeonguyuk said:
im changing my psu soon so a season 850w platinum and upgrading to a 5600x. and waiting on midrange 66/6700 GPU so i'll wait to done those upgrades before decide if i just change out the board. Id assue if PSU related it would be an issue even with gen3 drive. GEN4 drive indicates either board or cpu.
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Yeah I assumed it was my 750w PSU and I upgraded to a Corsair Rm850x but I was still having BSOD issues. Then just on an off chance I set the CPU voltage manually and it worked perfect. Ive since upgraded the CPU to a 5800x and ive no issues. The only thing I was that I had to manually set my TDC, EDC and PPT to get the CPU Temp under control otherwise it ran way too hot. Check out this article, following this and also using curve optimiser gave me the best results in R23 and I get 4.9Ghz on all cores https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...t_me/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
 
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