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Just to clarify one thing. Since we hear a lot about the price increase, will it mean that we will be charge extra? Can one of the OC stuff explain this? Will the paid price be honored?
 
Any updates on DPD deliveries for Ireland? Im sure they can simply change the delivery to registered royal mail no (especially seeing as they dont even have the stock so why are we all on it)?

Also while on hold are deliveries going to change positions for people not on hold? getting sick to death of it at this stage... which i assume they want and get people off the backlogs.
 
Gattsu_ie said:
Also while on hold are deliveries going to change positions for people not on hold? getting sick to death of it at this stage... which i assume they want and get people off the backlogs.
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It is always worth using the search function to check for recent posts by Gibbo and ScottiB...

Gibbo said:
Ireland orders are not losing their queue positions, those orders are held with stock assigned, once the DPD issue is sorted by DPD, then those orders will ship, to my knowledge a card is assigned to your order if your queue position is met, so stop worrying. The courier and Brexit issue is out of our control and is being sorted by warehouse logistics and the couriers of which I am not privy too.
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DarkMic said:
@Gibbo Since we hear a lot about the price increase, will it mean that we will be charge extra? Can one of the OC stuff explain this? Will the paid price be honoured?
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The latest I've seen on this topic is that it will depend on the price increases. OC may be willing to swallow the losses in some cases, or if the increase is too much the backorders for affected products will just be refunded en masse. Less likely would be OC looking for more money, since their systems aren't very well set up for that. The most unlikely outcome is that we will receive free upgrades in some cases where the price of only some products increase and it would work out better for all involved to just upgrade to OC versions, etc. There are about two chances of that happening though.
 
DarkMic said:
@Gibbo Since we hear a lot about the price increase, will it mean that we will be charge extra? Can one of the OC stuff explain this? Will the paid price be honoured?
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He has said they will, but there is obviously going to be a limit to this given how many orders have still to be completed. I've never really been convinced that everyone in the queue will get their GPU, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Cancelling peoples orders might end up being a thing, but it's a bit of a nuclear option for them. I'm sure they know that someone who bought something for £800, waited 5 or 6 months out the money, only to be cancelled and refunded and left with nothing, would be rightly furious at that outcome... and that person would probably never buy a single item here again, and warn anyone that would listen for some time to come. To enrage a few thousand of the sorts of people that spend big on high-end components, when your in the business of selling expensive components - that would be costly too.
 
interpol24 said:
The latest I've seen on this topic is that it will depend on the price increases. OC may be willing to swallow the losses in some cases, or if the increase is too much the backorders for affected products will just be refunded en masse. Less likely would be OC looking for more money, since their systems aren't very well set up for that. The most unlikely outcome is that we will receive free upgrades in some cases where the price of only some products increase and it would work out better for all involved to just upgrade to OC versions, etc. There are about two chances of that happening though.
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if 3080s go up by £100 to £150 per card I doubt OC will cover the difference out of their own pocket, thats taking out the profit margin and into a physical cash loss, multiply that by a few thousand orders, yeah I reckon they will cancel orders in mass with an apology or they buyer has the option to cough up the difference in price.

Ive already see that some 3080/90s gone up already in price by £100/£250
 
DarkMic said:
... also this.

At this point I begin to wonder if this is even legal to keep our money without even knowing when this is going to be availble.
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Well, it kinda is "legal" because of the simple fact they can always play the card "Refund if you are not happy" without any consequences. Nowadays the consumer as "no rights" even though there is a long list of consumer rights, that means jack **** in my opinion. And that is what grinds my gears. Not blaming OC here, but if we consumers could do something to make big companies lose money big time I bet they wouldn't pull this sort of crap. But we (myself included) are so complacent with this sort of crap that companies can do whatever they want. Ideally speaking I bet if there was a way to cancel all the orders/preorders in the UK that would be enough for Nvidia to open their eyes and get their **** together but yet again we are complacent and just want our cards.

interpol24 said:
I think blaming specific OC staff either interacting on the forums or in their call centre would be inappropriate, but putting some of the blame on OC as an organisation is entirely appropriate. The global stock shortage is of course out of their control, but they were woefully unprepared for anything other than a smooth launch (in a year full of extraordinary events) and have done almost nothing to remedy that in the intervening months. They took millions of pounds, if not tens of millions, up front for products they will not be able to deliver to customers within six months of the sales date and that's assuming the more optimistic predictions for the coming year prove to be correct. If supply continues at the rate up to now there will still be a large backlog of orders to be fulfilled 12 months after the initial sales date. They have failed to consistently maintain timely and informative updates up to now, four months since launch. They also clearly do not have any specific plans to address any upcoming potential complications, like cost price increases or discontinuation of specific products, and the complications introduced by Brexit illustrate this point perfectly. Instead of investing in more customer service resources to deal with the increased demand while the card shortage is ongoing, they've been sending out the message through the forums that the customers should be working harder to inform themselves before calling or addressing staff on the forums. It also seems like the few OC staff who do post here and provide information are often doing so in their own time. While that's a really sound thing for those guys to do personally, it's ultimately OC they're doing a favour for since it alleviates some of the pressure on them to keep us informed. They've been pretty good about handling refunds but I don't think they should get any bonus points for doing the things they're supposed to do. In short, they're just as guilty as Nvidia, Asus, Gigabyte, or any of the rest of taking their market for granted. I can only speak for myself but it was a bad idea for me. This is my first and last purchase from OC. This is obviously a challenging situation for all involved but I don't think it's unfair to say OC have not risen up to the challenge.
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100% Agree.

interpol24 said:
The latest I've seen on this topic is that it will depend on the price increases. OC may be willing to swallow the losses in some cases, or if the increase is too much the backorders for affected products will just be refunded en masse. Less likely would be OC looking for more money, since their systems aren't very well set up for that. The most unlikely outcome is that we will receive free upgrades in some cases where the price of only some products increase and it would work out better for all involved to just upgrade to OC versions, etc. There are about two chances of that happening though.
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It would be funny for them not accepting money for upgrades because the system does not allow that but then charge you more for the card you already purchased and you have been waiting for 4 months at this point.. THAT WOULD BE FUNNY TO WATCH.
 
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Grissol21 said:
To my fellow irishmen who are in the same boat as me who are popping up here and there, I created this thread on /r/ireland :https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/l0ll36/looking_for_info_on_import_duties_for_a_graphics/
By no meant an authority on the Brexit **** show that's a mere inconvenience to us, or import duties and all that, it does kind of point ( albeit word of mouth from those that have been through the system) to the fact that we've paid Irish VAT already, and that there are no import/customers duties on computer parts. The above quote also mentions that since OCUK is registered with revenue.ie, that we've paid the tax already. If we paid the tax, and import duties are sorted, then we should be good once or orders are no longer on hold. ( ordered 7th of Oct here, still 1000-1110 in the queue). Seems there is at least one brexit troll in the last few comments, ignore him, he cant get a self congratulating **** out of it, if you do. Might seem like a political comment, but its not really. I'm just trying to help out others who bought from OCUK as well, in a quandary, not of our making.
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That's pretty helpful for me, thanks. It seems the person I emailed in DPD didn't have a clue what they were talking about then. Because I explained exactly the situation. Computer parts, paid in full with VAT in September etc. Seems like literally nothing in their response to me was correct. Doesn't instill much hope in terms of DPD sorting themselves out, but it's at least gratifying to know that things should be good on OCUK and Revenue's end vis a vis taxes and charges.
 
percept said:
He has said they will, but there is obviously going to be a limit to this given how many orders have still to be completed. I've never really been convinced that everyone in the queue will get their GPU, but we'll just have to wait and see.

Cancelling peoples orders might end up being a thing, but it's a bit of a nuclear option for them. I'm sure they know that someone who bought something for £800, waited 5 or 6 months out the money, only to be cancelled and refunded and left with nothing, would be rightly furious at that outcome... and that person would probably never buy a single item here again, and warn anyone that would listen for some time to come. To enrage a few thousand of the sorts of people that spend big on high-end components, when your in the business of selling expensive components - that would be costly too.
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Well, if the money was charged and is in the bank of the retailer for x months, asking to pay more would be insane. I thought that all the back orders were already placed with the suppliers for the agreed amount. This is believable to think that our money is working dividends for them and then all of the sudden it would be just refunded. This just confirms my previous posts saying that this is being grossly mishandled by OC. Having said that I would wait for the the official confirmation. Please come clean so that we can wight our options. @Gibbo @ScottiB
 
hobib_ali said:
if 3080s go up by £100 to £150 per card I doubt OC will cover the difference out of their own pocket, thats taking out the profit margin and into a physical cash loss, multiply that by a few thousand orders, yeah I reckon they will cancel orders in mass with an apology or they buyer has the option to cough up the difference in price.

Ive already see that some 3080/90s gone up already in price by £100/£250
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Thing is they lose money on refunds too, since both the original purchase and the refund transaction are charged for. Probably not to the tune of £100 an order, but apparently enough for it to be something they have to take into consideration. You would also think that at some point they would need to consider damage control for their brand, though I've seen zero commentary along those lines from Gibbo or ScottiB so far.
 
If they were to honour our original price that we payed and if cards went up only even £100, OC would already be at a loss of around 320k nearly on just ASUS 3080 back orders.

Edit: Went through and got all back orders for 3080s, if all cards went up £100 they would have a loss of around 615k or if even worse if they did go up £250 they would have a loss of bit over 1.5 Million!
 
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