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*** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION ***

Goosy said:
I've already had 3 dreams relating receiving the 3080 :D
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Honestly though, recieving a new GPU gives me a feeling that I only had as a child at Christmas. That feeling of installing it for the first time and seeing the desktop load. Installing the drivers and then seeing your FPS increase by 50%. Ahh, it's bliss.

Sucks that I won't have that feeling for months and months. But, my time will come. I'll get the 5800X and 6800XT together and it will be amazing. My 3600 and 5700xt system isn't slow by any means. I can get over 100fps in many games, but I love that FPS and detail increase.
 
ScottiB said:
That's the root of the problem with the bounced deliveries, once the order has been shipped and invoiced with the VAT included we are legally and technically unable to refund the VAT. The VAT situation must be resolved before the order is invoiced. Legally, the only way to refund the VAT after this point is to refund the whole order.

As I said, it's looking increasingly likely that customers outside of the UK (Northern Ireland should be sorted soon, if not already) will have to have their VAT refunded before goods are shipped and will have to deal with charges locally. If you are one of these customers and this is not something that you wish to do then cancelling the order is beginning to look like the only option: https://forms.gle/KewUKDD7fQMu1div5

I assure you that this is not us being difficult. This just appears, right now, to be the ONLY way to get the couriers to accept these parcels.
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i am one of the people whos cards were bounced back by dpd after being sent to ireland i will happily take a vat refund and pay the vat again myself with it when it arrives i just really want my card ,i was so excited when it finally shipped nearly a month ago now
 
ivan-ent said:
i am one of the people whos cards were bounced back by dpd after being sent to ireland i will happily take a vat refund and pay the vat again myself with it when it arrives i just really want my card ,i was so excited when it finally shipped nearly a month ago now
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It was shipped nearly a month ago and you still don't have it :o. OMG
 
Being over 100th on the ventus que never thought I would be so happy to see I'm moving up 10 places :) @ScottiB I know I'm not your favourite person but thanks for all the communication, I'm sorry that we got off on the wrong page and I can really appreciate how frustrating it's been answering the same questions everyday.
It's easy for everyone to try vent their frustrations on ock staff but honestly seeing the way you have been covering extra costs, ect I really do feel like a p**** for throwing my toys out the pram!
 
matty007 said:
I haven't made a preorder. Also, I'm not even blaming OC - it's the entire country. I have been through mining crazes before, and GPU delays. But this one? It's totally unacceptable. We have several situations now which are causing a huge mess -

GPU manafacture much lower/slower than it should have been.
Mining Boom
Bots (although to be honest, this has always happened. Before, there was enough stock to manage it)
People at home and not working due to Covid restrictions (Quite why people are mass buying GPU's in such economic and job insecurity I find odd, but hey ho)
Covid causing delays (Personally I always find this a crutch. Manafacturers/shippers are either working or not. If they are, I fail to see how a virus can slow things down - but they're)
Brexit

All of these situations have come together and caused a massive mess. Everything has happened at the same moment. Do I expect things to get back to RRP? No, it's unlikely. Although to be honest, they should. Once the market has calmed, GPU's should always be at, or near, RRP. All I ask for is a little fairness. If I can get a 6800XT for £700? Sure, I'd be happy. That's 'only' £80 over RRP. But £1300 when RRP is £620? You must be joking. There's just no excuse.

As said, I reckon June-July is when we'll see things more like normal. Possibly even May, if we're lucky. Once stock has risen, there's no real reason why prices shouldn't be near RRP. But as I stated, that is a ridiclious time to wait for a GPU after it's launch, and if AMD/Nvidia have any fairness, they will delay the next gen a little to reflect these delays. I don't want to be paying £700-£750 for a GPU that will be surpassed in a year through no fault of mine due to delays.

I largely blame the lack of production of GPU's for this mess. That's where most of the issue stems from. They should have really delayed launch by a month or two to stockpile more cards. The very least they can do is delay the next gen slightly.
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It's no one's fault, its covid causing a global supply chain issue. A GPU has a whole load of components from many factories from different countries each dealing with their own covid issues and so on it go all through the supply chain. The only added issue in the UK is Brexit, as long as you didn't vote for Brexit your conscience is clear ;) The whole world is in the same boat. Nvidia and AMD would like to sell you their GPU but: supply chain issues.
 
I think so many people do not follow the news in general to see where this problem all started.
In 2019 Sony and Microsoft began booking their slots to large chip manufacturers. As well as ordering memory.
Already 2020 was predicting to have issues in supply of GDDR memory.
Nvidia and AMD followed ordering their slots which had all the tech press telling us new cards were coming like we already knew.
Covid arrives.
Trump makes a mess with China trade.
Globally things slow with covid.
Consoles sell out instantly and are scalped.
The cards release - sold out instantly and are scalped.
Even car manufacturers struggle to get components orders.
Everything is at capacity and so even manufacturers orders are queued.
Felixstowe port has half a container ship of containers stuck causing some ships to divert and others to queue up.
Container fees begin to rise.
Then here in the UK. We Brexit.
With a "trade deal" but folk like Boris have no idea how that deal translates into paperwork with existing systems.
Instead of logistics people working those details months ago, it is agreed in principal days before.
Vaccines start arriving and take over space on mostly air cargo.
And those cheeky Chinese are actually taking some time off for a New Year!!! How dare they!
Now we have cardboard shortage! Nevermind concrete! Bloody amazon took all the cardboard!

Soon Godzilla will start to attack container ships.
Especially the ones with graphics cards.

And it is one persons fault and one person only!
It is your fault! :) You bought the bloody thing. You created the demand. You and all your pals wanting bloody new things. All of you. With your consoles. Your TVs. Your cards. And so on. :p

:D
 
It's often hard to see what is actually being shipped too but judging by the Discord of another retailer I am on I would say that there is a disproportionate number of RTX3090's being shipped and barely any 3080's. I would propose that statistically the number of people prepared to spend the dosh to buy a 3090 is probably 5% of the market with the 3080's being the most popular choice and theoretically being about 50% of the higher end nvidia graphics market. The lack of 3080's being shipped v 3090's thus says to me that the manufacturers who can only get a limited amount of cards made are choosing to make more 3090's than 3080's so that those unable to get a 3080 may be tempted to upgrade! Frankly I had a tough time justifying the £785 I paid for my 3080 - so I'm still waiting and simply cannot justify the £1500+ required to secure a 3090.

In any normal industry the manufacturers make what the public want, but not seemingly in the ridiculous graphics card market! Would this happen if there were more than 2 big players? Doubt it!!
 
Also its the miners that are gobbling up most of the 3080s, my preorders arrived so i ended up with 2 extra cards, 3080s, i listed them on the tree, honestly within 30 mins I had 2 guys offering to purchase both cards for 2500 quid, I thought these guys wanted to rob me, so some guy drove all the way from Norwich, 3 hour drive in his 60k merc, when i saw the car i realised he was a genuine buyer.
 
Birdseed007 said:
It's often hard to see what is actually being shipped too but judging by the Discord of another retailer I am on I would say that there is a disproportionate number of RTX3090's being shipped and barely any 3080's. I would propose that statistically the number of people prepared to spend the dosh to buy a 3090 is probably 5% of the market with the 3080's being the most popular choice and theoretically being about 50% of the higher end nvidia graphics market. The lack of 3080's being shipped v 3090's thus says to me that the manufacturers who can only get a limited amount of cards made are choosing to make more 3090's than 3080's so that those unable to get a 3080 may be tempted to upgrade! Frankly I had a tough time justifying the £785 I paid for my 3080 - so I'm still waiting and simply cannot justify the £1500+ required to secure a 3090.

In any normal industry the manufacturers make what the public want, but not seemingly in the ridiculous graphics card market! Would this happen if there were more than 2 big players? Doubt it!!
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3090s are now selling for 2k+ on 90% of the etailers, big price increases
 
The/3080/Ghost said:
@ScottiBI'm sorry that we got off on the wrong page and I can really appreciate how frustrating it's been answering the same questions everyday.
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Each to their own, but I'd not apologise.
Scotti isn't bad, but equally my mental image of him will forever be a grumpy old grandad in an armchair shouting for the kids to get off his lawn.

I mean I worked up north for a fair amount of time, pretty sure that's just what they're like.
 
hobib_ali said:
Also its the miners that are gobbling up most of the 3080s, my preorders arrived so i ended up with 2 extra cards, 3080s, i listed them on the tree, honestly within 30 mins I had 2 guys offering to purchase both cards for 2500 quid, I thought these guys wanted to rob me, so some guy drove all the way from Norwich, 3 hour drive in his 60k merc, when i saw the car i realised he was a genuine buyer.
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Thats where i live but it wasnt me
 
hobib_ali said:
Also its the miners that are gobbling up most of the 3080s, my preorders arrived so i ended up with 2 extra cards, 3080s, i listed them on the tree, honestly within 30 mins I had 2 guys offering to purchase both cards for 2500 quid, I thought these guys wanted to rob me, so some guy drove all the way from Norwich, 3 hour drive in his 60k merc, when i saw the car i realised he was a genuine buyer.
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2500 for 3080s! JESUS. Could build a beast of a pc with that money if you can get it all at retail that is.
 
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