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smu_dog said:
To be fair, dlss is genius
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To be fair Nvidia have been playing this game for decades, coming out with some lame feature to make consumers only want to buy their cards because games will not run well without an Nvidia branded card. So we feel afraid and buy their cards.

Sometimes they used specific" in game options", so if you didn’t have an Nvidia card it would be greyed out :( to make sure gamers buy their cards if they want full fps and performance.

AMD/ATI have always lagged behind but I enjoyed the Power colour HD 4850 days :p. GPUs cost around £200 or so on release day back then. The GPU cost has gone up astonishingly with excuses , each time Nvidia making record profits. Now a gpu on release day costs £1,900 if you can even get your hands on one. Shambolic!

Nvidia's 1070,1080 series laptops are their best products, as they have released them with performance on par with desktops but they have now changed it and their laptops are **** compared to desktops in regards to performance. Big move backwards and also helps this current drought of 3 Series cards as if you buy a laptop 3 series the performance is cut in half.
 
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Happy belated 5 month anniversary fellow queues'

AMD are not real competition for Nvidia - maybe in gaming rasterization they compete, but that's only one of the many use cases for GPU's now. There's no competition in productivity at all. Nvidia partner with Adobe for a lot of the AI stuff (I bet adobe is ultimately behind DLSS) I know their adobe sensi AI is behind a lot of Nvidia advancements. So the 25 million CC subscribers get better perf from nvidia, the millions of Autodesk users are the same. Then there's machine learning, the same... eg, My mate works for Dept of Agriculture and they have dozens of nvidia based research machines, not one AMD. Then ofc there is mining, which 30 series are better at too.

So if your only gaming at 1080p/1440p raster, then ok, AMD might be a consideration - but for anything else including professionally, they just aren't cutting it...that's the reason Nvidia are in control and can treat us all like poo.

As for ray tracing, from a development point of view is one of the biggest jumps in graphics tech in my lifetime.. Nvidia didn't have to force it on anyone as it's been used professionally for years. Nvidia didn't invent real time ray tracing, they are just the first to try and push it mainstream.
 
Just finally got another webnote about dpd deliveries to Ireland saying they still have no info when deliveries will resume and now not even any indication when they might oh and helpfully suggested I can refund if I'm sick of waiting yet again after I have made it very clear I do not want to refund about 3 times after waiting since sept in a que and having my card shipped on Jan 7th....are you guys just giving up on your Irish customers now and asking us to refund ? Sure feels like it and that you don't care at all.
 
DirtyT said:
I don't see anybody talking about this yet here. 3060 mining nerf is confirmed but there's a rumour it will be done over the whole 30 series

https://www.3dcenter.org/news/gerue...ten-ampere-portfolios-mit-cryptomining-bremse

This seems good news but at the same time it might mean we have a longer wait on the new skus?
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The bad news is small miners are not interested about their mining cards.
-You can't play with them
-The day ETH crash, the dedicated mining cards will have no value.

I suspect it will only take weeks to the mining community to find a way to bypass the limitation of the new gpus except if it's a hardware change.
 
Well latest update - Asus 3080 tuf oc was 172 last update 171 :eek: ! this latest update, an incredible jump of 1!! - down the rabbit hole again!!:p
ordered 7th Oct 17:57 pm
 
Can someone PLEASE tell me why it is taking so long to get these graphic cards?! How can they accept thousands of orders and take hundreds of thousands in pounds for them to not even get the the cards out in 6 months!! Is it all a scam or what?
 
five8five said:
Just to carry on the conspiracy theory, aren't AMD doing the same thing? They announced the 6000 series would be in short supply through Q2.

Trying to get to my head round how it's so profitable for Nvidia to restrict stock. They're still selling FE cards at RRP, in limited numbers. Is it a conspiracy between Nvidia and the AIBs to artificially inflate pricing?

To me it it's a "fill yer boots" situation, with AMD production struggling, as they could sell bucket loads of extra cards to gamers and miners, but they don't seem to be able to. I think they would if they could....
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I have to agree inflating prices sounds like a good enough reason to me, Nvidia will reap the benefits in the end of what they sow. never again Nvidia.
 
ScottiB said:
They have competition, AMD (although they aren't exactly rolling in stock either), AMD's cards are just as powerful as Nvidia's and offer a slightly better price/performance ratio. However, Nvidia are controlling the market with technology.

There's only one reason why you should buy a 3080 over an 6800XT, Ray Tracing, a technology which nobody cared about a little over two years ago but Nvidia did an excellent job of selling the concept so that enthusiasts lust after it.

Then there's DLSS, a technology which essentially tricks your eyes into accepting upscaled textures in order to deliver higher frame rates.

Nvidia succeeded in moving the market to suit their technology rather than creating tech to suit the market. It's genius really.
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let's hope it's flawed genius and it comes back to bite them a little in the end, not a savaging but a good bite would be nice! :p
 
hubbabubba said:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why it is taking so long to get these graphic cards?! How can they accept thousands of orders and take hundreds of thousands in pounds for them to not even get the the cards out in 6 months!! Is it all a scam or what?
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It was the buyers choice to accept a non time-limited, first come first served pre-order system, no one forced anyone to do this. The whole episode is a joke, but retailers can't be criticised for false selling or making specific promises on when an order would be dispatched. I got a queue number and that was it.
 
hubbabubba said:
Can someone PLEASE tell me why it is taking so long to get these graphic cards?! How can they accept thousands of orders and take hundreds of thousands in pounds for them to not even get the the cards out in 6 months!! Is it all a scam or what?
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Erm Covid, is a world wide thing, so like everyone else they are taking care, so less staff less productive.
The we have BREXIT that's a totel cluster **** on its own, and also add Chinese New year. And also add on the fact nvidia knew they didn't have enough for supply. And then you have the scalpers knobs, and it's a known fact that ocuk could not handle the sheer volume on release date, they were in the poop b4 they even knew it.
Hope that helps
Sorry about spelling mistakes I'm on my phone rushing this message while at work.
 
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Stevo the great Longshaft said:
Erm Covid, is a world wide thing, so like everyone else they are taking care, so less staff less productive.
The we have BREXIT that's a totel cluster **** on its own, and also add Chinese New year. And also add on the fact nvidia knew they didn't have enough for supply. And then you have the scalpers knobs, and it's a known fact that ocuk could not handle the sheer volume on release date, they were in the poop b4 they even knew it.
Hope that helps
Sorry about spelling mistakes I'm on my phone rushing this message while at work.
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Don't forget the miners buying up so much stock.
 
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Sudden said:
That's very interesting, thanks! I know i for one am looking at 3080s etc. more is just historical. My first graphics card was an Nvidia and I have a soft spot because of that. My first AMD card is my crrent RX 570 and I'm just generally under the impression that they lag behind Nvidia (since they used to earlier). Not really done my own research into it.

Are there any benefits that the 6800XTs offer over the 3080s? From the little I know, the stock situation isn't much better for them either.
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6800xt often offers better rasterization performance (sometimes by quite a margin) at a lower price. 6800xt is likely to pull further away from the 3080 with future driver updates too.

Honestly, I know this is a Nvidia thread, but the 6800xt will be my choice.
 
Overclockers.co.uk: Queue Position of Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF Gaming 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fQ7GlVhIP_YNjFJQYFvE5a-6H1Ywnw7aacjRfLNn_tE/edit?usp=sharing
 
Update on Strix 3080 OC.

23/10 - 1165
28/10 - 1110
06/11 - 1022
13/11 - 955
20/11 - 921
27/11 - 879
04/12 - 846
11/12 - 800
14/12 - 791
19/12 - 746
24/12 - 729
08/01 - 628
15/01 - 621
22/01 - 608
29/01 - 593
05/02 - 591
12/02 - 567
19/02 - 562
 
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