What proportion of your household income was your first mortgage?

25% gross.

However I did opt for a 21 year mortgage as a first time buyer.

If I had went for 35 years I imagine it would be 15% gross.

I've also made overpayments regularly.
 
First house was ~13.5% of net income, which seems crazy now.

Me and my wife were only 21 at the time and I was at uni getting £1400 per month with a combination of part time work / grants / student loan. My wife worked in a call centre on £1200 per month.

It was an 85k mortgage over 30 years, so only £350 per month. I don't think I've ever felt so relatively wealthy since!

Even now it's only 19% of our net income but to be fair, we overpay quite a bit and are looking to remortgage from a 23 year term to a 12 year term soon so it will increase to ~25% of net.

Thank god for house prices up north!
 
18.5% of net pay. To be honest I genuinely thought it was higher.

Mortgage is only a small part of owning a home though.

Council tax
Water
Gas and electricity
Broadband
Factor charges
Home insurance

All of the above are pretty much essential for most

You could also add

TV license
Sky TV
Netflix
Prime

People spending 50% is completely unrealistic unless they are earning absolute fortunes.
 
So I said 17% gross above.

It's funny to think as of right now it's 37% of net, that's with wife on maternity leave (c. 450/mo maternity allowance), but still.
 
I earn 37.5% of our house hold income. We are screwed when we have kids as my wife doesn't get maternity pay. We've been saving for 3 years though so have a good buffer.
 
I earn 37.5% of our house hold income. We are screwed when we have kids as my wife doesn't get maternity pay. We've been saving for 3 years though so have a good buffer.
Shared parental leave is a thing though I'm sure you're aware already. Speculating on that info is your wife self employed? Mine is, the lack of maternity pay is a bit of a bummer but of course comes with the territory.
 
Shared parental leave is a thing though I'm sure you're aware already. Speculating on that info is your wife self employed? Mine is, the lack of maternity pay is a bit of a bummer but of course comes with the territory.

Yup, I am aware of that, thanks. My employer is really good and will give me full pay if I take parental leave. The wife is not self employed but she will only receive statutory pay unfortunately, seems to have been the case with all of her jobs.

I overpay massively, making my mortgage 25.6% of my gross (37.2% of my take home once pre-tax shares and pension are paid for).
I want my mortgage gone by the time I am 50.

That would be nice :) We took out a 23 year mortgage when I was 33 (wife was 29) but we are not in our forever home so there may be more to borrow yet. We also overpay but only for the last 9 months, which knocks us up to 33% of our net earnings going on the mortgage.
 
That would be nice :) We took out a 23 year mortgage when I was 33 (wife was 29) but we are not in our forever home so there may be more to borrow yet. We also overpay but only for the last 9 months, which knocks us up to 33% of our net earnings going on the mortgage.
I live by myself, however if I ever moved in the girlfriend I would expect that the mortgage would get larger. Whether this extended it would be TBC. In either event, I don't plan to work Fridays once my house is all mine.
 
Was about 40% on my first house and it was pretty tough going until I managed to get a couple of pay rises.

On our current house, it's about 17% of my wage. And only about 10% of our combined income.
 
Mortgage is only a small part of owning a home though.

Council tax
Water
Gas and electricity
Broadband
Factor charges
Home insurance

All of the above are pretty much essential for most

You could also add

TV license
Sky TV
Netflix
Prime

People spending 50% is completely unrealistic unless they are earning absolute fortunes.

Oh I agree, and if the question was what percentage of your income is your total outgoings I would put it closer to 40-45% (including food, the odd takeaway, petrol, Netflix etc).

We’ve always tried to work on the basis that all of our outgoings can be covered by the single lowest salary. That way if one of us lost our jobs we would still be able to function. It might require some adjustment (cancelling Netflix for example) but we could get by.

Obviously that plan doesn’t factor in both experiencing job losses and that’s why we have built up a bit of an overpayment on the mortgage and a modest savings pot.

However realistically our situation isn’t possible for everyone. We’ve lived in our house for 7 years, but in that time houses in our street have gone from £180-190k to selling for £340-360k. That’s a huge difference in mortgage payments unless you are lucky enough to have a sizeable deposit to offset the difference.

I saw one go up for sale the other week for £390k which boggles my mind. 7 years ago I was convinced that we were overpaying at £180k.
 
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We’ve always tried to work on the basis that all of our outgoings can be covered by the single lowest salary.
That's a good way of thinking about it. To be honest I'm not interested in the rest of the affordability prices (netflix etc) as those are easy to judge and fairly static. Eg going from a rented flat to owning a house you know the gas/electric might go up a bit, council tax will be more. It's more the starting point I am interested in. It seems banks are still willing to lend more than is sensible? Or maybe given interest rates can only go up, I'm looking at it negatively thinking mortgage payments do have the potential to get far more expensive.
 
Net, obviously! What relevance on 'affordability' does gross pay have? It's meaningless if you're leaving all the confusing variables like pension, tax, student loan (lol), whatever on the table! :)
I'm amazed that most people were easily under 30%. What about all the stories of FTBs stretching themselves? :confused: To us, right now up to 40-45% seems doable but possibly unwise. We pay 22% of our net take-home on rent and that's very comfortable.
The thing is, as I always say in these type of threads, if you are in any way partly serious about looking at 'affordability' then there are way too many variables at play. 'Net' is only part of the puzzle - some people might have a very high proportion of net pay going on their mortgage, but have no other debts, short mortgage term, and loads of cash in the bank. This 50% 'thick line' could be no problem whatsoever for some people even not on high incomes, as they may not be that reliant on their monthly income. For some people even paying over 100% of net on mortgage could be affordable, although I accept this is unlikely to be common for FTB. Whereas somehow else could have lower proportion of net pay but loads of other debts, nothing in the banks, and decades left on their mortgage. Leaving that to one side, proportion of pay is all relative, people on big salaries could pay high proportion and still have thousands in disposable income every month.

I know it's just a bit of fun, so i'll play. TBH I can't remember exactly what my partner's gross (never mind net) income was when we bought our first house but roughly speaking, based on us splitting it 50:50 I was paying about 40% of net and she was paying about 30%. I do think this is potentially misleading though because we deliberately took a shorter mortgage term than many FTB (20 years) - if we'd taken a longer term, the proportions would drop, but that wouldn't make the home more affordable, we'd have ended up paying more in interest. Everyone seems obsessed with monthly payments these days, I'm more concerned minimising cost.
 
The thing is, as I always say in these type of threads, if you are in any way partly serious about looking at 'affordability' then there are way too many variables at play. 'Net' is only part of the puzzle - some people might have a very high proportion of net pay going on their mortgage, but have no other debts, short mortgage term, and loads of cash in the bank. This 50% 'thick line' could be no problem whatsoever for some people even not on high incomes, as they may not be that reliant on their monthly income. For some people even paying over 100% of net on mortgage could be affordable, although I accept this is unlikely to be common for FTB. Whereas somehow else could have lower proportion of net pay but loads of other debts, nothing in the banks, and decades left on their mortgage. Leaving that to one side, proportion of pay is all relative, people on big salaries could pay high proportion and still have thousands in disposable income every month.

I know it's just a bit of fun, so i'll play. TBH I can't remember exactly what my partner's gross (never mind net) income was when we bought our first house but roughly speaking, based on us splitting it 50:50 I was paying about 40% of net and she was paying about 30%. I do think this is potentially misleading though because we deliberately took a shorter mortgage term than many FTB (20 years) - if we'd taken a longer term, the proportions would drop, but that wouldn't make the home more affordable, we'd have ended up paying more in interest. Everyone seems obsessed with monthly payments these days, I'm more concerned minimising cost.

+1 to the monthly payments.

I was speaking with someone the other day and they said their mortgage was only X per month. I knew roughly how much they paid and when so I could figure out they had took the longest term possible . During that short period of time of ownership 6 years their house has increased in value by 50%. So it doesn't really matter if they are paying more in interest the value of their home is soaring relative to other areas. Relatively speaking my home has only went up by 33% in the same time period and I bought in an area which I thought was extremely sought after by new buyers but theirs is obviously even better for that market.

My dad also bought a home cash buyer with zero mortgage and it's went up 50% in 4 years and it's in an affluent area and worth more than 3 times the national average. I don't know if he got a really good deal because he was the first foot through the door or cash or both because after he bought the same houses were selling for 5% more within a month.

Therefore the actual time of when you bought your home makes a massive difference. As in if you paid 50% more for the same house because you bought it 4-6 years later then obviously it's going to be a larger proportion of your income regardless of the length of the mortgage.

I do agree with you though that many are clueless about interest and mortgage terms. They just look at the monthly payments and have no real understanding that £200k borrowing is actually going to cost them £400k spread over 35 years as an example.

You also have to strike a balance and have money to enjoy your life as well as try and get your forever home as soon as possible.

I'd like to go one size bigger. I could afford to within the next 2 years but I'd have to double my mortgage term to be comfortable. It's a massive jump in price about 35% more for the home then probably a similar increase in council tax, utilities, insurance, etc.

I've thought about extending but it's just not worth it. I'm much better off just buying the bigger home. Extension wouldn't give me the same bump in increase of internal floor space and would decrease external space. Making next to no difference to the value overall.
 
This house. First House, first year. Maxed out mortgage. I'd say it's most people's second house.
It's 20-25 percent of net(ish)

Could definitely afford higher. But it would start to affect things like DIY projects etc.

Does feel that the banks lending limits are spot on. Obviously interest rates are low too.

It's a 30 year mortgage. But I will be reducing that hopefully maybe even to 20 years as time goes by. I wanted a little less repayment first 5 years to do all the DIY and build up savings again.

I actually don't think I ever want a bigger house.
Garden, house etc are all sized well. Any bigger and be too much space and too much cleaning, maintenance etc. Same goes for garden.
 
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Roughly 40% of my worst case net pay, my job has lots of bonuses attached to it which made mortgage interesting. Wife is self employed and didn't get taken into account.
 
If all goes well and we get our first house, 26% of net pay, 20% gross. Less than the rent we currently pay for a house for 3 more bedrooms, extra reception room and bathroom so made perfect sense for us.

We have opted for a 30 year mortgage though which skews it. We want to build up a savings pot again since we will have used the bulk for the deposit.
 
This house. First House, first year. Maxed out mortgage. I'd say it's most people's second house.
It's 20-25 percent of net(ish)

Could definitely afford higher. But it would start to affect things like DIY projects etc.

Does feel that the banks lending limits are spot on. Obviously interest rates are low too.

It's a 30 year mortgage. But I will be reducing that hopefully maybe even to 20 years as time goes by. I wanted a little less repayment first 5 years to do all the DIY and build up savings again.

I actually don't think I ever want a bigger house.
Garden, house etc are all sized well. Any bigger and be too much space and too much cleaning, maintenance etc. Same goes for garden.

Yeah. A lot of people just never think about cleaning and things like that.

The biggest I'd ever go is 4 bedrooms personally. And then I'd get the front all monoblocked if it hasn't been already.

Then patio majority of the rear. Usually too shaded for grass to do well. Or just keep grass (preferably plastic) in the middle with the rear and front patio so no maintenance at all. I don't like decking for that reason or hedges and trees.
 
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