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todays price hike on 30 series stuff?

If i hadnt got myself a gpu i'd def give up gaming on PC and pay scalper price to get a PS5 or Xbox.
only during difficult times you see the true color of people/companies.
 
Maybe but like the others they are in the business of making money and right now everyone has an easy excuse to be upping prices.
Sony could easily add 50% on top and still sell everything they have. They need to praised for not jumping on the bandwagon.
Sony's motto is "play has no limits" whereas nvidia's Motto is "price has no limits!"
 
If i hadnt got myself a gpu i'd def give up gaming on PC and pay scalper price to get a PS5 or Xbox.
only during difficult times you see the true color of people/companies.
PS5 and Series X is definitely more readily available than gpu’s are at the moment with large drops coming into the country since Xmas. Managed to get both at launch and everyone I know has managed to get one from retail outlets since. Getting hold of a gpu is a completely different story. Been trying since October to get a reasonably priced one with no avail. Completely put building my PC on hold now which is a bit of a shame as I was looking forward to get back into PC gaming a bit more.
 
Sony's motto is "play has no limits" whereas nvidia's Motto is "price has no limits!"

it isnt nvidias fault when stores are scalping gouging and everyone else is.

also the stories some peddle ohhh we only make a small percentage. yeah...we believe you. :p
 
If i hadnt got myself a gpu i'd def give up gaming on PC and pay scalper price to get a PS5 or Xbox.
only during difficult times you see the true color of people/companies.

If I didn't just buy a nice new monitor I think I'd be really considering doing the same right now. As it is I'm now even considering just sucking it up and buying the 3090 even at the absurd price (I know it ruins it for the rest of us, I'm sorry, I'm weak)
 
it isnt nvidias fault when stores are scalping gouging and everyone else is.

also the stories some peddle ohhh we only make a small percentage. yeah...we believe you. :p
Everyone is at it, nvidia are scalping AIBs who in turn are scalping distributors who are scalping retailers who are scalping the customers.
 
If I didn't just buy a nice new monitor I think I'd be really considering doing the same right now. As it is I'm now even considering just sucking it up and buying the 3090 even at the absurd price (I know it ruins it for the rest of us, I'm sorry, I'm weak)
I thought you got hold of a 3080?
 
And to think that back in december, when I had one of the cheapest 3060ti's in my basket for £440, I was seriously considering not going ahead cause I really didn't feel good about paying £70 over the MRSP!......

At the time, assumed shortage would be over by february at the latest. But then crypto went crazy.

Thank god I went ahead.

Best of luck to everyone trying to source cards right now
 
Wow imagine a manufacturer using an excuse to try and get out of a warranty claim for someone mining 1 card or a couple :rolleyes: I wonder if they use that excuse on large editing or special effects companies where the cards are hit far harder hour after hour or data centres. Funny that these same companies are selling their cards directly to the farms by the pallet load.

Edit: That article is from 2017. And in it they point out it isn't possible for the manufacture to know if the card has been mined.
Not everybody is going to be smart enough to cool the cards (esp the VRAM) sufficiently to mine 24/7.

The manufacturers have a point, like it or not. If your average gamer starts using their gaming GPU to mine 24/7, without making any allowance for the extra stress/heat of operating it that way, you're probably going to see a lot more failures. Otherwise your typical gamer might only use/stress the card for a couple hours a night. And the stress patterns are different. More core stress, less VRAM stress than mining.

As said, it was the top result from Google. I'm aware it was from 2017. I was simply pointing out that (some) manufacturers have said that mining is not the intended use for their gaming GPUs. Which they have.

Ultimately, miners will do what they want regardless. They will also try to offload their half-knackered GPUs right before they are expected to fail (they will have a rough ballpark figure for the lifespan of the card, and typically seek to sell it on a little while before it could fail, esp if using the original coolers/fans).
 
I'm interested in hearing what more people think of the jump, I was really skeptical but I'm loving it

Quite easily made the jump to be honest. The new consoles offer pretty much all my gaming needs now. Before all this I only had dipped my toe in the water, basically only buying console exclusives and the multiplayer games my mates were playing (only 1 has a gaming PC, rest are all console). Every other game I used to get for PC instead.

Now the new consoles are basically on par or better than my current PC, the Xbox (and hopefully PS5 soon) support VRR as well, 60fps option in games etc so everything other than PC exclusives are now bought on console instead.

I only ever used my PC for gaming before all this anyway (don't encode videos, render etc) and with the costs becoming ever more expensive, and now frankly astronomical made it an easy decision to switch. There is only 1 game that I'm waiting for on PC (Total War Warhammer 3) which my current rig should handle ok. I don't think I'll sell my PC because I have older games I still enjoy that aren't on console, so my PC is now relegated to old back catalogue games. I won't be investing any more money in it unless something breaks, and then it will be the bare minimum to get it running. Upgrades for PC are now a thing of the past, because the situation we face now, I can't see ending, or returning back to normal, the market has changed and I don't want to be a part of this new normal.
 
Not everybody is going to be smart enough to cool the cards (esp the VRAM) sufficiently to mine 24/7.

The manufacturers have a point, like it or not. If your average gamer starts using their gaming GPU to mine 24/7, without making any allowance for the extra stress/heat of operating it that way, you're probably going to see a lot more failures. Otherwise your typical gamer might only use/stress the card for a couple hours a night. And the stress patterns are different. More core stress, less VRAM stress than mining.

As said, it was the top result from Google. I'm aware it was from 2017. I was simply pointing out that (some) manufacturers have said that mining is not the intended use for their gaming GPUs. Which they have.

Ultimately, miners will do what they want regardless. They will also try to offload their half-knackered GPUs right before they are expected to fail (they will have a rough ballpark figure for the lifespan of the card, and typically seek to sell it on a little while before it could fail, esp if using the original coolers/fans).

No they won't, because there's no way to know, I've had a bunch of 1060's mining for 4 years solid, one of them failed about 2 years in so by that argument I'd have sold them all off, but the fact is the rest have made far more for me mining the extra 2 years than they would have if sold.

They are run at 70%, never go over 70C even in the summer and they get a thorough clean about every 12 months, if one of them starts getting warmer I would tear it down and repaste

I really don't know where people get this idea that miners are trying to flood the market with knackered cards
 
Not everybody is going to be smart enough to cool the cards (esp the VRAM) sufficiently to mine 24/7.

The manufacturers have a point, like it or not. If your average gamer starts using their gaming GPU to mine 24/7, without making any allowance for the extra stress/heat of operating it that way, you're probably going to see a lot more failures. Otherwise your typical gamer might only use/stress the card for a couple hours a night. And the stress patterns are different. More core stress, less VRAM stress than mining.

As said, it was the top result from Google. I'm aware it was from 2017. I was simply pointing out that (some) manufacturers have said that mining is not the intended use for their gaming GPUs. Which they have.

Ultimately, miners will do what they want regardless. They will also try to offload their half-knackered GPUs right before they are expected to fail (they will have a rough ballpark figure for the lifespan of the card, and typically seek to sell it on a little while before it could fail, esp if using the original coolers/fans).
Boo hoo poor manufacturers. I’ll use my card for whatever I see fit it’s up to them to prove the issue has been caused by me.
 
Boo hoo poor manufacturers. I’ll use my card for whatever I see fit it’s up to them to prove the issue has been caused by me.
It's not the manufacturers I really care about.. it's the planet, and (a distant second) gamers. Both of whom are worse off with mining than without it.

But so long as people can make a quick buck, mining is here to stay. Most of us have accepted that now. Doesn't mean we have to like it tho.

On that vein... would be interesting to see the miner/non-miner breakdown here on this forum.

I would hazard a guess that it might be a pretty close thing. Certainly a lot of vocal support for mining here now.
 
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