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Managed to nab the 3090FE.
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Caporegime
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This is from the "other place" chat earlier, so supposedly 1000 cards comprising 3070/3090. If that's true then the lions share must have been 3070 as the 3090 generally sits around for a bit. Unless people are now just jumping on the 3090 as the 3080 is simply too hard to get.
That smells like crap to me, in November their was a 3070 drop that lasted for over an *hour*! I seriously doubt they had a shipment of 10k cards into them at that point!!
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Good choice.
Shouldn't lose any money on it in the next few months.
Was in the middle of my ward round, had to nip out and order quickly!
Yeah a few comments thinking it was bs as well. Then again gibbo was claiming he relisted some cards on the 3d printer section with no heads up and they had 300+ orders in quick order, so i suppose its possible that a stock alert with discord and telegram all over it could see a load of sales in a short period of time.
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Maybe there are thousands more people signed up to bot alerts now then add to that the price of AIB cards increasing. Also people who already got cards are still looking to buy more whether it be to mine or scalp.
I suspect they got them yesterday but were too busy with the 3060's (plus optics competing with AIBs). they don't seem to want to store them, my hunch always was that they list them as soon as they arrive, or even if they will get them later that day. That would explain the random times of day.
over time more and more people figured out that the FE's is where it's at, how much you can resell them for and how to get alerted. I think the audience is insane now. That plus more people getting into mining.
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3090 Fe is a bargain ATM.
Who thought that would be the case when it came out?
Crazy times
Who thought that would be the case when it came out?
Crazy times
Exactly this! It's hardly out of the realms of possibility. I know the discord I was on grew from 1000 to nearly 10k between Dec and now. With 3080's pushing over 1k as well as 6900xt's hitting 3090FE prices I'm not surprised more people are just going for that.
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So glad i got my Asus strix 3090 for £1500. Seemed a mad thing to do at the time. I could probably still sell it now, used, for a decent profit.
It is really sad that we are able to celebrate this!
It is really sad that we are able to celebrate this!
no way around it. when stuff is this scarce, prices will always soar. if there weren't any scalpers, there'd be a few more cards sure, but not enough. so prices would be pretty much as high anyway.
depressing but hey.
Scalpers don’t really impact the numbers getting into gamers hands a great deal.
I remember reading about a group that had secured a few thousand PS5s. My response was ‘so?’. It sounds like a lot until you realise Sony sold a few million in the same period.
People wouldn’t scalp if there wasn’t a market for it. You can’t put all the blame on the scalpers when their ‘customers’ are actually paying those prices. It’s ultimately a completely non-essential luxury product at the e d of the day.
I remember reading about a group that had secured a few thousand PS5s. My response was ‘so?’. It sounds like a lot until you realise Sony sold a few million in the same period.
People wouldn’t scalp if there wasn’t a market for it. You can’t put all the blame on the scalpers when their ‘customers’ are actually paying those prices. It’s ultimately a completely non-essential luxury product at the e d of the day.
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You can put a lot of it on them though - they insert themselves into transactions where they aren't wanted, purely to extract a fee for having a faster bot than others. They produce nothing of value themselves. They're parasites.
yeah but you could say the same about resellers. they also just skim a profit (and more when things are scarce like now). but they do provide a service, retail distribution, customer support etc.
with scalpers you can argue that they have found ways to grab cards when almost nobody else can (relatively speaking). or maybe they were just super lucky. so they're securing cards and that's what someone is paying for, because they can't do it themselves. think about it, if they didn't supply any value, nobody would pay them.
that's capitalism (for better or for worse)
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That doesn't follow at all. In fact they supply negative value, they sever the retailer>consumer relationship and they're highly unlikely to (for instance) handle RMAs etc, while charging higher prices. They exacerbate shortages by taking a chunk of the supply.
Unless you're trying to argue that the prices they charge *prove* they supply value because value is measured in the price people pay, in which case any practice that results in a sale is de-facto OK because you're supplying value, and this entire discussion is pointless as all forms of commercial activity are necessarily equal. Not a philosophy I subscribe to!