3090 Worth it Over the 3080??

[m4rmite]

I bought a 3090 because a 3080 wasn't available.
Do i regret it? No. I had the money, I'd i didn't have the money then i wouldn't have bought it.
Once i got my hands on a3090 i upgraded my entire system, so it ended up as more than a £1500 spend.

YouTube looks great btw

 

[gpuerrilla]

We were frowning upon the latter posts in the thread being the substandard knee jerk slurs of its only 10% faster and double to cost. Its more than double to cost FE > FE but throw in the AIB models and its all over the place.

The horse **** generalisation assumes everyone can get a FE edition and its a fixed difference in performance between the two cards. Regardless of the extra VRAM, the 90 has more cuda cores, more memory bandwidth and a better cooler:



So in some situations it may only be 5% better. In games its up to 25% faster. If you don't like the 3090 and its price - who cares? The figures people pluck out of thin air and argue like zippy from rainbow are laughable.

According to some in here, your a mug if you bought a card above FE prices and your automatically a mug if you bought the 3090. I take it with a bit of humour. Its even funnier as the culprits seem to be cropping up with cards and paid inflated prices.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

The original question the OP asked was whether the 3090 is worth it when it's over double?

Instead people have been answering based on the 3090 costing just slightly more due to the scalping. That's not what the OP asked. Obviously if the 3080 is scalped that much, then the 3090 is worth it. It's a no brainer.

But based on MSRP where the 3090 costs OVER DOUBLE, can anyone honesty justify it and say it's worth it?

 

[Woodsta888]

I’m sorry but if a 3080 can’t play a game then a 3090 most definitely can’t! It’s not the next card up like the 2080ti was to the 2080, it’s fractionally better performance with a lot more vram. If 38 fps isn’t good enough then 42 fps won’t be either.

Far too much purchase justification going on in this thread, I get that people buy a 3090 because they can’t get hold of a 3080 and a tiny few actually need the extra vram but let’s be honest if there wasn’t a squeeze on the gpu market we would all be rocking £649 3080’s.

The original question the OP asked was whether the 3090 is worth it when it's over double?

Instead people have been answering based on the 3090 costing just slightly more due to the scalping. That's not what the OP asked. Obviously if the 3080 is scalped that much, then the 3090 is worth it. It's a no brainer.

But based on MSRP where the 3090 costs OVER DOUBLE, can anyone honesty justify it and say it's worth it?

These^^^

And if someone can summarize ALL the good points raised in this thread then maybe we'll all be educated. Or answer some qeustions such as;

What is 'worth'?
Is it worth it regarding Cost?
Is it worth it for gaming?
Is it worth it for mining?
Is it worth it because 3080's are unavailable?
IS 100% increase in cost worth it for 15% performance in games at 1080p/1440p/4k?
IS it worth it because you were too slow to get a 3080 and didn't fancy early scalps of £100-£200 so are left with a £1400+ 3090 for choice.

The scalped price argument is weak as some try and justify a RRP 3090 vs a max scalped 3080 cost.

Some have wanted one from the start and I did as I thought the performance for double the money was gonna be more than 15%. But some in the beginning were calling the 3090 a rip off and not worth it when it was released and the 3080 was the card to get, then extreme FOMO through deviation of normalisation had folk spending more. If you got ANY of the AMD 6800+ and 3080+ cards you are fortunate and many have extra disposable from lockdown savings.

Both excellent high res gaming cards and I see the 3080Ti is rumoured now to only have 12GB of 6X.

The true 3090 'worth it' arguement will be answered when the 3080Ti surfaces. Same question will be is the 3080Ti worth it over the 3080?

Google "IS 3090 worth it over 3080" and the findings are conclusive.

 

[mikehhhhhhh]

The original question the OP asked was whether the 3090 is worth it when it's over double?

Instead people have been answering based on the 3090 costing just slightly more due to the scalping. That's not what the OP asked. Obviously if the 3080 is scalped that much, then the 3090 is worth it. It's a no brainer.

But based on MSRP where the 3090 costs OVER DOUBLE, can anyone honesty justify it and say it's worth it?

It's brought up because it's relevant.

Comparing 3080 vs 3090 at MSRP is pointless, because it's almost impossible to buy a 3080 at MSRP. There's no point holding a discussion on hypothetical and unachievable conditions.

 

[oldestgregg]

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[oldestgregg]

Your idea of purchase justification is different to others. *********** like Sarge was just trolling adding no content. Surprised mods aren't all over it.

Couldnt agree more. The salt and shade thrown by people trying to tell me whats value for me or for others I just dont get. You spend your cash how you want to and I will mine. Not to sound like a d*** but Ive paid for the 3090 and easily afforded it so why shouldnt that be a good purchase for me?

 

[gpuerrilla]

Of course its relevant as its one of the many variables to the argument. To the OP question, you cannot answer it without knowing what one person pays for with a comparison question!

To some, money is not a factor. Performance is another variable and again with silicon lottery they will all perform differently if you want to be pedantic.

 

[oldestgregg]

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Both excellent high res gaming cards and I see the 3080Ti is rumoured now to only have 12GB of 6X.

The true 3090 'worth it' arguement will be answered when the 3080Ti surfaces. Same question will be is the 3080Ti worth it over the 3080?

True but also buy he time stock is available for the Ti then I will probably of had my card for at least 8 month and been happy with it so there is that.

The 3090 just like the Titan before it was never meant to be value for money. Its meant to be the best by however much that may be. I see a few people playing down the percentage to make it as low as possible and if thats mis-information, jealousy or just exaggeration I dont know but the Ti/Titan ratio is usually the same. Value for money lies with the Ti (3080 in this case) and the 3090/Titan is the best albeit not by a great amount. If you think the card costs too much or isnt value for money then guess what? Its not aimed at you, its not for you and there IS a card for you which is the 3080. Buy it when you can and let others enjoy what they bought instead of weirdly trying to make people regret what they are enjoying. Its not a good look, it really isnt.

 

[oldestgregg]

Of course its relevant as its one of the many variables to the argument. To the OP question, you cannot answer it without knowing what one person pays for with a comparison question!

To some, money is not a factor. Performance is another variable and again with silicon lottery they will all perform differently if you want to be pedantic.

Exactly. I wanted one and luckily I can afford it so the price wasnt an issue when deciding just the issue of getting hold of one which I managed for RRP.

 

[oldestgregg]

I’m sorry but if a 3080 can’t play a game then a 3090 most definitely can’t! It’s not the next card up like the 2080ti was to the 2080, it’s fractionally better performance with a lot more vram. If 38 fps isn’t good enough then 42 fps won’t be either.

Far too much purchase justification going on in this thread, I get that people buy a 3090 because they can’t get hold of a 3080 and a tiny few actually need the extra vram but let’s be honest if there wasn’t a squeeze on the gpu market we would all be rocking £649 3080’s.

Under 40fps isnt playable to me but 45fps with Gsync is. I could play it with lower DLSS but wanted to play with quality DLSS instead. I get the same with quality DLSS as I was with balanced/ performance with the 3080 but guess what...Im not justifying it to you! I had a 3080 and wanted the extra FPS so I sold it and bought a 3090. Im happy with my purchase and I HAD a 3080 bought for RRP. Keep your salt mate , and keep assuming you know whats good for me. Everyones different and lifes to short to worry I might not meet your expectations. Its a huge assumption on your behalf that I would be rocking a 3080 given I had one and sold it but last gen I had a Titan and the gen before...guess what? Yep, another Titan. I have very few overheads and Im blessed with a well paid job I love so I like to treat myself. You do you though buddy.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Under 40fps isnt playable to me but 45fps with Gsync is.

This is same for me. I have a 4k monitor and completed AC:Valhalla where fps was always between 42>60. It was very smooth no tearing. I have no doubt that if I had a 3080 I would still had a great experience but can guarantee those low frames would have been in the 30s. I still am rather annoyed both AMD and nvidia keep claiming 4k gaming is here when they still need to optimise the drivers some more as I would hedge that both the 6800XT and the 3080 are borderline 4k cards in most titles and some tweaks will be needed to maintain a high fps.

 

[oldestgregg]

This is same for me. I have a 4k monitor and completed AC:Valhalla where fps was always between 42>60. It was very smooth no tearing. I have no doubt that if I had a 3080 I would still had a great experience but can guarantee those low frames would have been in the 30s. I still am rather annoyed both AMD and nvidia keep claiming 4k gaming is here when they still need to optimise the drivers some more as I would hedge that both the 6800XT and the 3080 are borderline 4k cards in most titles and some tweaks will be needed to maintain a high fps.

Exactly. The highs are great on both cards but the lows are what matters at 4k. People saying its only 5fps but a super demanding game at 4k thats quite literally playable and not playable. Gsync makes 45fps for me (FOR ME before anyone pipes up) fine in a single player game and thats why I ended up selling the 3080 and getting the 3090. I wanted the extra frames no matter how many and I know its sounds d***ish but I can afford it quite easily so money was and is never the issue here.

You mention drivers which I do agree with but the resize BAR update is hopefully going to give us some nice gains as well!

 

[gpuerrilla]

You mention drivers which I do agree with but the resize BAR update is hopefully going to give us some nice gains as well!

Lol. Funnily enough I mentioned that twice recently gregg, and you get odd jokers reposting weird jibs of 'its not the amount of VRAM that matters' etc. which has similarities to this thread where people get the wrong end of the stick. I am looking forward to what it offers and the supposed RTX IO to see if theres more room there to be had.

 

[JohnG7]

IMO it is worth it for my massive E-Peen alone.

I have spent more on pr0n over the years (from Jazz Mags to movies)

 

[oldestgregg]

Lol. Funnily enough I mentioned that twice recently gregg, and you get odd jokers reposting weird jibs of 'its not the amount of VRAM that matters' etc. which has similarities to this thread where people get the wrong end of the stick. I am looking forward to what it offers and the supposed RTX IO to see if theres more room there to be had.

If we get 10% mate that will be great and for me thats the least we can expect.

 

[gpuerrilla]

If we get 10% mate that will be great and for me thats the least we can expect.

10% is 10%, more than welcome! Is that the same 10% that the 3090 is over the 3080 btw as its some kind of universal internet forum kidology?

Wouldn't want to be paying double the price for only that amount you know...

 

[CuriousTomCat]

Justification is key. I guess somebody without a mortgage will find it easier to justify than somebody with a mortgage? I`ve got more than enough in the bank to buy a 3090. But I`ll be happier using that money to reduce my mortgage. I feel more happiness and contentment knowing that I own an extra couple of bricks of my house. Yet other people get more happiness playing games than being debt-free. There`s no right or wrong. Whatever makes you happy.

 

[Nexus18]

Has it been proven yet if re-size bar/SAM gets more perf. from having more VRAM yet? (ignoring vram speeds)

The only reason people are saying that it shouldn't matter is because of the way the tech. works.... it's not really anything to do with the amount of VRAM but rather, it's removing a legacy bottleneck i.e. getting rid of the temporary file swap system, which has a limit of 256MB i.e. the cpu can directly access the GPUs VRAM with re-size bar/SAM.

 

[HRL]

I originally planned on buying a 3080Ti and had hoped they’d launch along with the 3080 but it wasn’t to be.

Then 3080FE’s became rare and prices started creeping up so I jumped on a 3090FE in December instead of waiting. Figured the 3090FE would probably out perform a 3080Ti anyway.

Still no 3080Ti launched and now some 3080’s cost more than the 3090FE, so no regrets at all here.

We all know the 3090FE was never the best VFM option but no-one has ever said that it was.