3090 Worth it Over the 3080??

Sarge2255 · 12 Mar 2021 at 21:46

Th0nt said:
This is same for me. I have a 4k monitor and completed AC:Valhalla where fps was always between 42>60. It was very smooth no tearing. I have no doubt that if I had a 3080 I would still had a great experience but can guarantee those low frames would have been in the 30s. I still am rather annoyed both AMD and nvidia keep claiming 4k gaming is here when they still need to optimise the drivers some more as I would hedge that both the 6800XT and the 3080 are borderline 4k cards in most titles and some tweaks will be needed to maintain a high fps.

Assassins Creed games usually all run like crap. The same as Crysis remastered. I never bought the AC Valhalla game because it runs like crap at 4k.

The 3080, 3090, 6800XT are all borderline 4k cards at max settings for some games like AC Valhalla etc. I agree that Nvidia and AMD keep claiming 4k gaming. The cards can do it .

It will be good to know if these cards can maintain playing games at 4k up until the next generation of GPUs.

I know the 3 series laptops can't even do 4k gaming at max settings even medium settings tbh. There is no 3090 mobile gpu either. So the non laptops are a better deal.

newuser · 12 Mar 2021 at 22:10

CuriousTomCat said:
Justification is key. I guess somebody without a mortgage will find it easier to justify than somebody without a mortgage? I`ve got more than enough in the bank to buy a 3090. But I`ll be happier using that money to reduce my mortgage. I feel more happiness and contentment knowing that I own an extra couple of bricks of my house. Yet other people get more happiness playing games than being debt-free. There`s no right or wrong. Whatever makes you happy.

You're being sensible, stop it.

Seriously though, I'm an older people. I own my small ramshackle house, the sensible and toy vehicles parked outside and all the things in it - not counting cats. I've got the long term sorted but in the here and now I wanted a 3090.

If you need justification just download blender. Congratulations! You're now a prosumer. You can now do renders with naked bints with swords riding dragons. The 3080 peasants would have to lose the dragon or the sword or the bint. THAT does not make sense.

gpuerrilla · 12 Mar 2021 at 22:16

Sarge2255 said:
The 3080, 3090, 6800XT are all borderline 4k cards at max settings for some games like AC Valhalla etc. I agree that Nvidia and AMD keep claiming 4k gaming. The cards can do it .

It will be good to know if these cards can maintain playing games at 4k up until the next generation of GPUs.

You would have thought there would be a margin over the line is what I was mentioning, not just about making it but having to sacrifice some settings to get there - especially as when the 2070 and 5700XT from the previous gen we not able to so you knew exactly how much was needed to get there - which the vendors claimed could do it. To top it off Jensen danced in his kitchen parading cutting to the celeb/gamer dudes who were playing at 8k.

It was just a bit rich, time to do what you can say or walk the walk so the saying goes. Maybe Jensen was banking on rebar and IO to stretch further...

oldestgregg · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:00

CuriousTomCat said:
Justification is key. I guess somebody without a mortgage will find it easier to justify than somebody with a mortgage? I`ve got more than enough in the bank to buy a 3090. But I`ll be happier using that money to reduce my mortgage. I feel more happiness and contentment knowing that I own an extra couple of bricks of my house. Yet other people get more happiness playing games than being debt-free. There`s no right or wrong. Whatever makes you happy.

I own my house we live in , we rent our old house out and Im paid very well for a job I enjoy in the tech world so thats why Im fine spending what I did on the 3090. I know money talk is crass I’m just tryin explain that value isn’t something I consider if I want something.

10% or 110% ,as long as it was faster I wanted it so I bought it and here we are. I dont drink or smoke and gaming is what I do so I believe if Im going to do something I want to have the best possible experience doing it. Couple that with the £1300 I just spent on the Acer CG437KP meant, again, I wanted the fastest card I could get to power it giving me the optimal experience whatever that may cost. Its never been about getting value for money I just want the best and given the only thing I spend my money on is gaming and trainers why shouldnt I buy it and secondary, why should I have to justify that to myself or to anyone else for that matter. Its just crazy some people are so salty and sometimes a little nasty or spiteful trying to make me feel bad for enjoying myself. I personally dont care if others find it worth the money as they are not me.

oldestgregg · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:05

Sarge2255 said:
Assassins Creed games usually all run like crap. The same as Crysis remastered. I never bought the AC Valhalla game because it runs like crap at 4k.

The 3080, 3090, 6800XT are all borderline 4k cards at max settings for some games like AC Valhalla etc. I agree that Nvidia and AMD keep claiming 4k gaming. The cards can do it .

It will be good to know if these cards can maintain playing games at 4k up until the next generation of GPUs.

I know the 3 series laptops can't even do 4k gaming at max settings even medium settings tbh. There is no 3090 mobile gpu either. So the non laptops are a better deal.

So you havnt played it but it ran like **** for you? Valhalla does not run like **** at 4k at all,Looks beautiful and didnt crash or bork once. I played the whole game maxed at 4k on my 3080 before i sold it and with Gsync and it was between 50 and 60 and ran fine.

You said over 60fps "runs too fast" a few pages ago so which is it?. Pretty much every word that comes out your mouth is either wild conspiricy theories, bitterness or just plain nonsense. I think you could benefit from interacting with people and learning about things rather than just acting like a 12 year old on Xbox live.

Sarge2255 · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:11

oldestgregg said:
So you havnt played it but it ran like crap for you? Valhalla does not run like **** at 4k at all. I played the whole game maxed at 4k on my 3080 before i sold it and with Gsync it was between 50 and 60 and ran fine. You said over 60fps "runs too fast" a few pages ago so which is it? Looks beautiful and didnt crash or bork once. Pretty much every word that comes out your mouth is either wild conspiricy theories, bitterness or just plain nonsense. I think you could benefit from interacting with people and learning about things rather than just acting like a 12 year old on Xbox live.

It shows it running like crap on many YouTube reviews, with 3080s and 3090s, it's even discussed on forums.

I don't know how you have not been banned yet? Your a bully, Mr Money is no object .

oldestgregg · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:16

Sarge2255 said:
It shows it running like crap on many YouTube reviews, with 3080s and 3090s

Except Ive literally played the whole game through between 50 and 60fps. A 3080 is more than enough to comfortably play that game at 4k and it runs just fine. Theres a whole thread on people benchmarking and playing it on these very forums but just ignore all them and pay attention to a Youtube video. You havnt even played the game but obviously you would know better. That would be Nvidia turning down your settings again no doubt. I just cant take you seriously man.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/assassins-creed-valhalla-bench-thread.18920196/

Here you go. Game looks gorgeous. Is it demanding? Yeah but that doesnt mean it runs poorly it means its demanding.

oldestgregg · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:23

Sarge2255 said:
It shows it running like crap on many YouTube reviews, with 3080s and 3090s, it's even discussed on forums.

I don't know how you have not been banned yet? Your a bully, Mr Money is no object .

Im a bully because I disagree with you? Or call you out on nonsense? Behave man and give over. Any consolation mate Ive stuck you on ignore. Youve not said a word of sense in this whole thread. Only reason money came into it is that Im trying to explain to you that for some people its not about value and about whats best for you but it takes spelling it out that way. Any way you take care and the IGN forums are that way }

oldestgregg · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:30

Nexus18 said:
Has it been proven yet if re-size bar/SAM gets more perf. from having more VRAM yet? (ignoring vram speeds)

The only reason people are saying that it shouldn't matter is because of the way the tech. works.... it's not really anything to do with the amount of VRAM but rather, it's removing a legacy bottleneck i.e. getting rid of the temporary file swap system, which has a limit of 256MB i.e. the cpu can directly access the GPUs VRAM with re-size bar/SAM.

I dont think it would matter having more VRAM would it? Technically the game would use the same amount but have different access to it? I might be completely wrong there but that was my understanding of it anyways.

Woodsta888 · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:35

JohnG7 said:
IMO it is worth it for my massive E-Peen alone.

I have spent more on pr0n over the years (from Jazz Mags to movies)

Just gotta look at folk that post their OC on their card as a superior of what it runs at. 1440 or 4k, never see it. These days, for peen only.

A summary for all the positives will help close this thread. WAITING!

Purgatory · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:38

Sarge2255 said:
I don't know how you have not been banned yet? Your a bully, Mr Money is no object .

Click .....^

JohnG7 · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:44

Woodsta888 said:
Just gotta look at folk that post their OC on their card as a superior of what it runs at. 1440 or 4k, never see it. These days, for peen only.

A summary for all the positives will help close this thread. WAITING!

I do not follow you, you mean like someone claiming to get say 2200mhz Core but really it is only 1900mhz Core?

FYI I have not even posted my card in the 3090 owners thread, I may do once I get cases sorted out but not my top priority right now.

Sarge2255 · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:49

The Assassins Creed Valhalla is a poorly optimised PC game. I don't know why you are crying about it. Again calling it how it is. The truth hurts.

Woodsta888 · 13 Mar 2021 at 00:51

JohnG7 said:
I do not follow you, you mean like someone claiming to get say 2200mhz Core but really it is only 1900mhz Core?

FYI I have not even posted my card in the 3090 owners thread, I may do once I get cases sorted out but not my top priority right now.

No mate, I'm with you! Adding to what you said. Sorry I didn't make it clear I agreed with you and was only adding to your view.

I do tip my hat to admitting JAzz mag expenditure in the past. :cool:

I laughed.

Before the internet n all eh!?

Woodsta888 · 13 Mar 2021 at 01:05

Double post

Woodsta888 · 13 Mar 2021 at 01:06

mikehhhhhhh said:
, in fact you seem to be deliberately glazing over the good points made.

Line 'em up then raver!, Your summary will close this thread once and for all.........WAITING

JohnG7 · 13 Mar 2021 at 01:10

Woodsta888 said:
No mate, I'm with you! Adding to what you said. Sorry I didn't make it clear I agreed with you and was only adding to your view.

I do tip my hat to admitting JAzz mag expenditure in the past. I laughed.

Before the internet n all eh!?

Grim5 · 13 Mar 2021 at 06:18

Sarge2255 said:
The Assassins Creed Valhalla is a poorly optimised PC game. I don't know why you are crying about it. Again calling it how it is. The truth hurts.

This isn't even a debate - the games developers just 3 months ago in an interview said that Valhalla and Watch Dogs Legion are not designed for modern hardware and to get their games to run better in modern hardware requires a complete game engine overall

That being said, they did announce they are doing just that, creating a new game engine that is built for next gen hardware

Hedge · 13 Mar 2021 at 07:29

Imagine buying a 50k BMW and they say we can give it 15 more Bhp and make it do 20mpg instead of 30mpg if you pay 100k.

Even money is no object people should appreciate that would be a crap deal, even if they buy it anyway.

If Ubisoft released Valhalla locked to 40fps then said you can have a special 45fps patch for £700 would that be also be worth it just because its suddenly "playable".

I love good dumb comparisons

Grim5 · 13 Mar 2021 at 08:52

Hedge said:
Imagine buying a 50k BMW and they say we can give it 15 more Bhp and make it do 20mpg instead of 30mpg if you pay 100k.

Even money is no object people should appreciate that would be a crap deal, even if they buy it anyway.

If Ubisoft released Valhalla locked to 40fps then said you can have a special 45fps patch for £700 would that be also be worth it just because its suddenly "playable".

I love good dumb comparisons

It's funny cause people do exactly that with cars, they charge massive premiums for tiny options (like paying $3000 to unlock top speed limiter) and extras and people spend an absolute fortune aftermarket to get single digit horsepower gains