Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)

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I always assumed the best course of action to not being shot when you have a dam gun pointed at you, is to promptly do exactly what that person says. Not try and argue with them. Worry about the rights and wrongs of it after when tempers have calmed down and weapons been holstered.
 
Convictions or complaints? AFAIK they were complaints and as such effectively hearsay.
Broken system? Highly unlikely that particular department was gonna charge it's own.
I mean same chokehold on a 14 year kid. Kid unconscious - but yeah that's ok so close case...

Chauvin's combative reputation wasn't limited to his policing career. Maya Santamaria, the former owner of El Nuevo Rodeo, the Latin nightclub where Chauvin worked, told BuzzFeed News that Chauvin "was nice, but he would overreact and lash out quickly."

Santamaria said she noticed that Chauvin's demeanor would change during special events for Black communities. She added that she had reprimanded him before when he used pepper spray on patrons.

"His face, attitude, posture would change when we did urban nights," she said.
 
That statement from the former club owner seems very much she said/he said, without evidence on eitherside to disprove or prove, its just that hearsay.

Remember the burdon of proof is on the accuser, and if he could prove that was a lie, she would be facing libel.
Yes I hear you, that's why I'm a big fan of video evidence. But a witness statement from a former employer does help build a profile of the man. His current boss calls him a murderer and is testifying.

So now we have 2 former employers/managers that seemingly have some alignment.

Does Chauvin have any character witnesses supporting him that he is not paying?
 
I think that video is pretty shocking, especially from a UK perspective and seeing guns waved around like that. It has nothing to do with Chauvin though.

Not even sure why a routine stop and go would make bbc news either.

Pretty sure there are fir example, worse crimes being committed daily in Africa, Kerachi and Birmingham.
 
Not even sure why a routine stop and go would make bbc news either. . . .
REALLY :confused:
You don't know why this is mentioned on the BBC :confused:

. . . Pretty sure there are fir example, worse crimes being committed daily in Africa, Kerachi and Birmingham.
Kerachi (population perhaps as much as 300) :confused:
Birmingham :confused:

Yup, I guess you are right, not displaying a licence plate on your car does seem like a pretty trivial offence. Fortunately guns are not common in the UK :rolleyes:
 
He is doing as he is told though. How you are still allowed in this forum I'll never know


He didn't get out the car when told. Strike 1
He didn't do what the officer told him to do/ Strike 2
He resisted an officer of the law. Strike 3

I could go on.

And seeing people carrying guns in the US, is like seeing people people in the UK walk.
No one takes any notice.
 
Never had a gun pulled on me by anyone there :)
What did you do?

It was a silly set of circumstances really.

Was travelling with a friend somewhere a bit east of Chicago in the early hours of the morning and we were lost on the way to the hotel - pulled into one place where the directions ended but it was all closed up so my friend lazily drove over a verge to the next place rather than going all the way back out and around (which a cop saw from a distance) and were poking around at the back of another place when this cop turned up and thought we were breaking into the place. He was a bit terse and not completely clear in what he was saying and I thought he was asking for ID so started reaching into my pocket at which point he pulled his gun (was actually intending we went back to his vehicle then he wanted to see ID). I was wearing combat style trousers as well which probably didn't help.

Once he realised we were visitors he was completely different though heh.
 
Imagine thinking its perfectly normal for someone to be pepper sprayed whilst having their hands up and clearly terrified. He's given how long to comply with his hands in the air again?

Firstly the guns are drawn before we even know whats happened. He's then told by the officer her should be scared to get out of his vehicle?

Why? the officers gave him a minute to get out of his car whilst they were literally telling him he should be scared to get out and he had guns pointing straight at him.

LMAO ok, perfectly reasonable response from the police there. I imagine if they had shot him instead of used spray you would justify that aswell.

"later released without charge"
 
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