No, not for financial security purposes. Let's say I'm planning a round the world holiday and then croak whilst arranging it. That money has served no benefit.
Unfortunately your last point isn't generally something we have control over.
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No, not for financial security purposes. Let's say I'm planning a round the world holiday and then croak whilst arranging it. That money has served no benefit.
Unfortunately your last point isn't generally something we have control over.
Life isn't fair?
There is no incentive to generate wealth if the state will take it all away on death. We would see capital flight out of this country that would decimate us.
Life isn't fair. But that doesn't mean we should ignore specific unfairnesses that we can do something meaningful about.
And the capital flight? There would be no incentive to generate wealth. Capitalism needs to generate wealth.
Agreed. It's already a major problem as it is. Most Africans and Asians that I know send decent wedges back to their native countries on a regular basis, they have no intention of staying in the UK come late middle age.
They can literally live like Kings in Pakistan or most west African states.
Wealth is it's own incentive. And it's not especially easy to offshore your property wealth.
Big money is its own beast. I'm not familiar enough to be able to pass meaningful comment on that situation. I'm sure wise heads can put systems in place.
ANd sadly with the aging population the average age to get your inheritance from your parents is now 61. Its a bit late to be getting on the property ladder then!
Plus the stats show that people who own a house and are on the property ladder are set to inherit £250k on average from their parents whereas those who dont own a house will only get £85k on average.
Just windens the gaps between the haves and the have nots.
Problem is the people at the top have vested interests to stop that happening. Going after the small time person with a small estate just doesn't seem fair to me.
It depends whether tackling that perceived unfairness actually has the effect you are hoping for, and whether the effect outweighs the negatives involved, because there are always pros and cons to every decision, both intended and unintended.
There is great danger in the attitude of 'we must do something' in that it often leads to anything being done because it is something, which in turn often makes things worse.
Your post is centrism in a nutshell, really. Maintaining the status quo regardless of its accelerating failings.
You appear instead to represent the aphorism 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions', advocating noble ideals without consideration for the practical impact of them in implementation.
Ah Cheesyboy is just upset he can't march anyone with a different (non-marxist) opinion off to a gulag somewhere (harsh but possibly true
) and all because more people had a better grip on reality and decided not to trust Corbyn, so the answer is to stop those with a better grip on reality voting apparently.In fact thats how far off the mark Labour and it's members have been, that even in their own heartlands more people preferred to vote to Boris the Buffoon than would trust Corbyn with their lives!
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I read a story recently that sums up the Tories and its supporters perfectly.
During the local election campaigns just before the local elections Boris arrives at a small village town hall and says to the waiting supporters, what are the most important problems you have right now?
A village elder steps forward and says, we have two mayor problems right now. We have a local healthcare centre but we have no doctors to see patients.
Ill sort that out right now says Boris.
Boris gets his mobile phone out and makes a call. He speaks for several minutes and then comes back to the crowd and says I have sorted that there will be a doctor here on Monday.
Whats the second problem? asks Boris.
We have no mobile phone coverage in the village, says the elder.
During the local election campaigns just before the local elections Boris arrives at a small village town hall and says to the waiting supporters, what are the most important problems you have right now?
A village elder steps forward and says, we have two mayor problems right now. We have a local healthcare centre but we have no doctors to see patients.
Ill sort that out right now says Boris.
Boris gets his mobile phone out and makes a call. He speaks for several minutes and then comes back to the crowd and says I have sorted that there will be a doctor here on Monday.
Whats the second problem? asks Boris.
We have no mobile phone coverage in the village, says the elder.
Not bitter. I'll probably get some inheritance.
But it's luck of the draw. You could get born in a 3rd world country. Or to a millionaire.
And it sets you for life. I just don't think it's right.
I've seen what inheritance wars do to families too. But that's another issue.
But I agree it can't be too high that it puts people off working.
We could be facing that prospect though. When we get to retirement. If you have any wealth the stateay take it for end of life care. Pensions could be cut and means tested to the point where it really isn't worth working.
It'll have to fall. Somewhere in between. Otherwise society would collapse
Yes. And its another house price lifter. Meaning)those without just get hurt more at each turn
Yeah but pratting about over the "unfairness" of the extremely wealthy in the UK is rather meaningless
Its just a matter of varying how super privileged Amy given person is compared to the other 90%
It's Tony. He struggles. It's OK.
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I don't know enough to comment on this ( what's new )
I do however see youtube vids of labour playing the identity game in the house of commons all the time though, I suppose it could be classed as propaganda though as it is cherry picked events.
I do however see youtube vids of labour playing the identity game in the house of commons all the time though, I suppose it could be classed as propaganda though as it is cherry picked events.