Thats probably because so many gamers are socially inept and lack the ability to socialise and make friends, which is why they sit alone playing games solo
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Thats probably because so many gamers are socially inept and lack the ability to socialise and make friends, which is why they sit alone playing games solo
Most of those are optionally multiplayer yes, but not all and to be honest that wasnt the point of my post, the point of my post was that all of those games are BETTER when played with friends and as a gamer is after the best gaming experience they can get why on earth would gamers actively choose not to play with their friends and play alone instead, makes absolutely no sense to me. Gaming, like most forms of entertainment is far superior when shared with friends than sitting alone.
The only thing I take from your points on this is that MMOs clearly are not for you as you dont appear to have friends to play them with by the sounds of it, why that is, I dont know, I guess only you can know that. That doesnt make the MMO genre bad games, all it means is that its not the right genre for you. Just because I do not like anime style games like Final Fantasy and Yakuza , that doesnt make them bad games, just makes them the wrong games for me.
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Go have a read of his posting history, that will explain why.
Funny. Everyone I've ever known IRL absolutely hates games and gamers.
Most people think they are violent and such.
And anyone I ever did know that was somewhat into games were only into console ones.
PC gamers don't exist in the real world.
Well that certainly explains why you are so averse to multiplayer games then. I'm in the opposite boat, most people that I know IRL are into PC gaming. My other half is an avid PC gamer, probably games more than I do really. All my closest friends are into PC gaming, many of my work colleagues are into PC gaming and I know probably 80+ people online, who I have gamed with on and off (and not met face to face) for the last 25 years, who are all PC gamers, including a bunch of us who didnt know each other at all but started chatting on a forum for the upcoming MMO Pantheon and have since played several games together while we await Pantheon. So I've a good size of both RL friends/acquaintances/work colleagues to play with and a sizeable number of people I've only ever interacted with on forums or voice chat but now play games together. So that sounds like it puts me right at the other end of the online gaming spectrum to you, which accounts for us having such differing viewpoints on multiplayer gaming.
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Says the person coming into a PC games forum on a PC enthusiasts website.
I think Esports might have something to say about that statement.
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Says the person coming into a PC games forum on a PC enthusiasts website.
I think Esports might have something to say about that statement.
Yes they exist online and maybe mainly sit in their basements or some such. They don't exist anywhere 'outside'.
So how do all these people afford the hardware they game on? You appear to have formed your opinion from your own reality and are projecting it onto others.
I'm hugely into PC gaming, but I just spent a week in the Lake District hiking... So I'd say we do definitely exist outside...
No idea where you are going with this.
The console gaming market makes up around 30%, PC makes up 25%, the rest is mobile.
Mobile outstrips both consoles and PC in revenue by more than double.
There are more people gaming on a PC than people do on an Xbox, more people game on PC than on a Playsation. It is only when combined do they overtake the PC player base in numbers.
So I am not sure how you are making your opinion.
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I've been playing WoW on and off since vanilla, and had some great times in the game, but this expansion is a real disappointment. I downloaded the free trial of FFXIV a few weeks ago, and I'm enjoying that so much I haven't logged into WoW since - it's well worth giving it a go if you're not too put off by the style of the game, the community seems much more chilled and less toxic than WoW too.
The middle east is less toxic than the WoW community
I see a hell of a lot of momentum online , on forums, websites, youtube/twitch etc, of folks moving from WoW to FFXIV. Its a veritable flood of movement in that direction. FF games arent my bag sadly, the artstyle and aesthetics just dont click with me and I've never been a fan of that aesthetic where a 6ft person runs about with a 12ft sword but FFXIV certainly does seem to be in the ascendancy (as football commentators love to say)
The middle east is less toxic than the WoW community
I see a hell of a lot of momentum online , on forums, websites, youtube/twitch etc, of folks moving from WoW to FFXIV. Its a veritable flood of movement in that direction. FF games arent my bag sadly, the artstyle and aesthetics just dont click with me and I've never been a fan of that aesthetic where a 6ft person runs about with a 12ft sword but FFXIV certainly does seem to be in the ascendancy (as football commentators love to say)
It just had it's highest peak concurrent steam players over the weekend.
Some of the big WoW streamers switched to FF14 and it's had quite a boost in popularity lately.
The middle east is less toxic than the WoW community
I see a hell of a lot of momentum online , on forums, websites, youtube/twitch etc, of folks moving from WoW to FFXIV. Its a veritable flood of movement in that direction. FF games arent my bag sadly, the artstyle and aesthetics just dont click with me and I've never been a fan of that aesthetic where a 6ft person runs about with a 12ft sword but FFXIV certainly does seem to be in the ascendancy (as football commentators love to say)
I mean sections of the community for a lot of multiplayer games can be toxic since multiplayer video games began. I personally have found the wow classic community or at least TBC Classic community to be quite mature, but I play solo and am pretty casual you will find the occasional immature player or players but every village has it's idiot/(s).
I used to really enjoy FF + other Squaresoft games back in the day at least from SNES to PSX era. I can't say I enjoy the modern titles as much although I have held off playing FF7 Remake hoping for a PC release and I will have to get over the modern look as I know the story is bloody good. But on self analysis It really is the aesthetics that has put me off.
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Bit of a thread res, but the thread title stood out and would suit my pondering.
I have been away from WoW for a good year now, maybe a little more. I just went on to the wow website and checked out the new Dragon flight expansion information. I was tempted to give it another go, before I saw the new expansion information, is it me, or is it now just too much. Too many new things to do or, maybe the wrong word, but, worry about? I saw an animation and explanation on dragon flight, you can do this, do that, escape the earths pull to do this and that. Why? Why not just have flying mounts as they were. Why become one with the dragons?
New UI layouts and re-vamp, yeah ok, fair enough, a tonne more professions to do, nope, it's just too much. New race and class combo to use, ok, always a good pull that one.
Is it time to make WoW 2, like a brand new game and not just a reboot. I know Wrath is coming back soon, and having re-subbed a few years back for classic and TBC, I was tempted but I didn't get far in TBC to warrant a return for Wrath. I much preferred the classic version than current retail.
I wan to try it again but I feel I will be overwhelmed again.
I have been away from WoW for a good year now, maybe a little more. I just went on to the wow website and checked out the new Dragon flight expansion information. I was tempted to give it another go, before I saw the new expansion information, is it me, or is it now just too much. Too many new things to do or, maybe the wrong word, but, worry about? I saw an animation and explanation on dragon flight, you can do this, do that, escape the earths pull to do this and that. Why? Why not just have flying mounts as they were. Why become one with the dragons?
New UI layouts and re-vamp, yeah ok, fair enough, a tonne more professions to do, nope, it's just too much. New race and class combo to use, ok, always a good pull that one.
Is it time to make WoW 2, like a brand new game and not just a reboot. I know Wrath is coming back soon, and having re-subbed a few years back for classic and TBC, I was tempted but I didn't get far in TBC to warrant a return for Wrath. I much preferred the classic version than current retail.
I wan to try it again but I feel I will be overwhelmed again.