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I’m not keen on the warthog, I have a ch pro already. Anybody here have a warthog? I hear they not built well...
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I had one but sent it as build quality was not great i could have been unluckly, so i went for the ch pro until VKB or winwing come out with thier new throttle.
watch out for this one when they finally sell it on its own:
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Take a scan at the Winwing units
Thrustmaster TWCS is another alternative to the CH pro throttle.
If you are changing your CH throttle because of jitter, have a look at this drop in contactless hall effect sensor https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/214485-ch-products-upgrades/. No soldering or reprogramming required, easy to install in 5 minutes, jitter problem solved. Cost 29 euros. Personal experience here as I'm also a CH throttle user and very happy with this mod.
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there are no problems with the throttle i just think its very basic. What i would like to know is when you are using the ch throttle and you have the green, red and amber lights when pushing down on the thumb stick.
My question is how do i assign different key commands to each one of these so for example...Green could be all powerup switches and navigation commands on each button, red could be all combat commands on each button, amber could be something else. Ive never figured out how to do this, can you help please?
I could be wrong, but I vaguely seem to remember that the three "mode" options (i.e. as denoted by the different colours) only worked if you used the CH software, which was never made compatible with the newer Windows versions and is extremely unlikely to still work with Win10.
I don’t really understand how DCS works with regard to its ability to simulate systems and functions of a modern fighter jet. The F18 hornet came out in the early eighties and went completely out of service only a few years ago hence perhaps why all its systems are available in DCS for Putin to study whereas for good reason there isn’t an accurate F22/35 in DCS.
The euro fighter is still very much in service so not sure how far they could go with it?
Never used this functionality myself as I simply assigned the third button the CH throttle handle - the one closes to the pinkie finger- as a "shift modifier" in DCS itself. This essentially doubled the number of available buttons and hat switches with minimum fuss.
As for the LED lights, CH Products website says this :
"What are the 3 LEDs on the front of my devices for?
The red, green and yellow LEDs on the Eclipse Yoke, Pro Throttle, and Fighterstick are modes that support up to 3 sets of button assignments programmed within the Control Manager software" https://www.chproducts.com/13-28485-Frequently-Asked-Questions.php.html
Never used this myself, although CH Control Manager works fine on my win10.
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Ok that sounds a good idea, using the modifier, you dont have a list of your commands do you and to what button on both settings? For the SU27
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Thanks for that
Sure, here it is. The most important thing for me is to have comabt modes (vertical scan, BVR etc) on the index finger hat (no shift)and Nav mode, gear, waypoint up/down on the index finger hat (with shift), middle finger is flare (no shift) and chaff (with shift). I have near identical settings for the F-15 and Mig-29.
Here is the whole file from ...\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Config\Input\su-27\joystick\CH Pro Throttle USB {FFE68570-0579-11e9-8004-444553540000}.diff :
Code:
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[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_Y",
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},
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["name"] = "Roll",
["removed"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_X",
},
},
},
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["name"] = "Rudder",
["removed"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_RZ",
},
},
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[1] = 0,
},
["deadzone"] = 0.03,
["invert"] = false,
["saturationX"] = 0.85,
["saturationY"] = 1,
["slider"] = true,
},
["key"] = "JOY_Z",
},
},
["name"] = "Thrust",
},
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},
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["saturationX"] = 1,
["saturationY"] = 0.44,
["slider"] = false,
},
["key"] = "JOY_X",
},
},
["name"] = "TDC Slew Horizontal",
},
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},
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["slider"] = false,
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["key"] = "JOY_Y",
},
},
["name"] = "TDC Slew Vertical",
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},
},
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[1] = {
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[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Next Waypoint, Airfield Or Target",
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[1] = {
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[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Display Zoom In",
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[1] = {
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["reformers"] = {
[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
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},
["name"] = "Display Zoom Out",
},
["d105pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
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[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "(1) Navigation Modes",
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["added"] = {
[1] = {
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["d107pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN5",
},
},
["name"] = "(3) Close Air Combat Vertical Scan Mode",
},
["d108pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN8",
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},
["name"] = "(4) Close Air Combat Bore Mode",
},
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[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN6",
},
},
["name"] = "(5) Close Air Combat HMD Helmet Mode",
},
["d111pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
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[1] = {
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[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "(7) Air-To-Ground Mode",
},
["d113pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN13",
},
},
["name"] = "Cannon",
["removed"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN5",
},
},
},
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[1] = {
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[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
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},
},
["name"] = "ASC Direct Control (Cobra)",
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["d1315pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN8",
["reformers"] = {
[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Previous Waypoint, Airfield Or Target",
},
["d177pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_L",
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},
["name"] = "Zoom normal",
},
["d285pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN15",
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},
["name"] = "Radar RWS/TWS Mode Select",
},
["d357pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN3",
},
},
["name"] = "Countermeasures Flares Dispense",
},
["d358pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN3",
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[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Countermeasures Chaff Dispense",
},
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[1] = {
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["name"] = "Radar Pulse Repeat Frequency Select",
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["d68pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
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[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN14",
["reformers"] = {
[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Landing Gear Up/Down",
},
["d72pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN14",
},
},
["name"] = "Flaps Up/Down",
},
["d86pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
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[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN15",
["reformers"] = {
[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Radar On/Off",
},
["d87pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN13",
["reformers"] = {
[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Electro-Optical System On/Off",
},
["d957pnilu958cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["name"] = "Stick to Trimmer Control Mode",
["removed"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN3",
},
},
},
["d97pnilunilcdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN2",
},
},
["name"] = "Trim Reset",
},
["dnilp139u230cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN11",
},
},
["name"] = "Scan Zone Left",
},
["dnilp140u230cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN9",
},
},
["name"] = "Scan Zone Right",
},
["dnilp141u230cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN12",
},
},
["name"] = "Scan Zone Up",
},
["dnilp142u230cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN10",
},
},
["name"] = "Scan Zone Down",
},
["dnilp32u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["name"] = "View Left slow",
["removed"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_L",
},
},
},
["dnilp34u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["name"] = "View Up slow",
["removed"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_U",
},
},
},
["dnilp35u214cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["name"] = "View Down slow",
["removed"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_D",
},
},
},
["dnilp39u289cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_U",
},
},
["name"] = "Zoom in slow",
},
["dnilp40u290cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN_POV1_D",
},
},
["name"] = "Zoom out slow",
},
["dnilp412u414cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN12",
["reformers"] = {
[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Target Specified Size Increase",
},
["dnilp413u414cdnilvdnilvpnilvunil"] = {
["added"] = {
[1] = {
["key"] = "JOY_BTN10",
["reformers"] = {
[1] = "JOY_BTN4",
},
},
},
["name"] = "Target Specified Size Decrease",
},
},
}
return diffAssociate
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Thankyou so much, do i just paste this into a .lua once i open with notepad?
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Thankyou so much, do i just paste this into a .lua once i open with notepad?
Its ok i found it in the ch pro throttle controller settings
It’s worth it.
Some suggestions:
- run a search for Chucks guides. A chap in the US writes comprehensive and easy to use guides that can be downloaded in PDF format
- there’s a number of groups with good step by step video tutorials. The ones by Grim Reapers probably cover the widest scope and I’m comfortable with their style of presentation
- do join the Eagle Dynamic forums. There’s a wealth of useful info and very helpful persons
- don’t try to rush it. Becoming proficient will take time. Think of how a real pilot learns, eg how to startup, how to take off and lend. How to navigate etc. Real pilots break their learning into manageable chunks
It's worth getting Flaming Cliffs 3 for all the aircraft and the training guides, not a huge departure from LOMACI'm hoping it'll be more of a refresher than anything. I used to play the original Lock On games, so I'm pretty familiar with the basics - albeit very rusty