Mandatory Speed Limiters on New Cars from 2022

Nasher said:
How long before they limit acceleration as well, maybe slowly creep the limiter down to 60mph. Then maybe patch it in retro-actively over the air...
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This will be the next big thing. Pay for an update to get your car upgraded from 6 seconds to 60 to 4 seconds with a monthly sub of £5.99 because lets face it the after market for electric motors will be non existent!
 
I don’t think this will be the big issue people think, far more people follow limits as a matter of routine in these days of speed cameras everywhere, myself included, it’ll ultimately just mean everyone ambles along at more or less the same speed which on our increasingly congested roads can’t be all bad I think.

Like in trucks it’ll most likely operate on the fuel pump so you just reach your limited speed and you’ll go no faster (unless going downhill).

I recall the uproar when limiters were brought in for trucks, which unlimited could easily crack 80mph or more if you were brave / stupid enough to try, it’s a non issue now though.

It’ll take the fun out of a back lane blast but when you consider a motorway is statistically far safer, again it’s probably no bad thing.

Ultimately, if you need to exceed 70moh to have fun then you probably need an MX5 and a twisty road rather than a 600bhp M5 / whatever that feels like it’s doing 60 when it’s actually doing double that….
 
Scania said:
I don’t think this will be the big issue people think, far more people follow limits as a matter of routine in these days of speed cameras everywhere, myself included, it’ll ultimately just mean everyone ambles along at more or less the same speed which on our increasingly congested roads can’t be all bad I think.

Like in trucks it’ll most likely operate on the fuel pump so you just reach your limited speed and you’ll go no faster (unless going downhill).

I recall the uproar when limiters were brought in for trucks, which unlimited could easily crack 80mph or more if you were brave / stupid enough to try, it’s a non issue now though.

It’ll take the fun out of a back lane blast but when you consider a motorway is statistically far safer, again it’s probably no bad thing.

Ultimately, if you need to exceed 70moh to have fun then you probably need an MX5 and a twisty road rather than a 600bhp M5 / whatever that feels like it’s doing 60 when it’s actually doing double that….
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Yep agree

I think we will see developments such as already having been worked on becoming mainstream. Probably initially only on motorways, or at least 3 lane roads.

An increase in the speed limit for fully automated vehicles, upto 80mph. Most of the time (wrongly) this is what the faster traffic will generally be travelling at anyway. They cannot increase the manual limit to 80 unless they drop the allowance for over speeding, which from what I have heard has been part of the restriction anyway, legalise 80 and everyone will say, ok so I can go 90 and probably get away with it due to guidance on ticketing.

The above increase to legally allow the speed, plus bringing in road train technology will mean driving decent distances in a relaxed and faster way.

Road trains will offset some of the extra costs of the higher speed with lower efficiency by partly contraing that with drafting efficiency. They vary in approach but generally, one vehicle will be at the front doing say 80mph, another vehicle will join, the vehicles negotiating this and then the second car will pull in far closer to the lead car than normal, gaining efficiency from drafting, teh lead car will advise of speed increases / decreases etc. Other vehicles will join behind the second with the same approach, things such as speeding/slowing being advised by the lead car and passed down.
When a car needs to leave it tells the car in front, it then slows by advising the cars behind to also slow. It then moves out of the train, the car that was behind it now negotiates with the new car in front of it (the one that was 2 cars in front before), and closes the gap, with all the cars behind it following suit.
Most of the ability for the vehicles to be able to drive closer together is they have virtually no reaction time, so the thinking time that a human needs is unnecessary.
 
Scania said:
It’ll take the fun out of a back lane blast but when you consider a motorway is statistically far safer, again it’s probably no bad thing.
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Back lane blasts are one of the few things I actually still enjoy in life, so it's a bad thing for me.
 
R.P.L said:
Back lane blasts are one of the few things I actually still enjoy in life, so it's a bad thing for me.
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I think this sort of driving might actually be affected the least. Your experience may differ depending on location and vehicle, but for me, most "back lane blasts" are on NSL rural roads....and I can enjoy a good blast along them without breaking 60MPH.
 
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The camera will still be online though. It just wouldnt encounter any signs. Expensive technology defeated with a bit of tape.
 
Semple said:
IIRC the one in Audi only beeps/visual alert once you go over the set speed limit rather than a continuous beeping.
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I think that is something you must have to set manually. As my 2018 Audi certainly does not do that. Anecdotally of course ;)
 
It's it not just the same technology some cars have now. Where you can still have the limiter on or off, it just automatically sets the speed itself.
 
R.P.L said:
Back lane blasts are one of the few things I actually still enjoy in life, so it's a bad thing for me.
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I'm finding that 4/5 times now when going out for a drive you just end up stuck behind someone ambling along. Doesn't seem to matter what time you go out, the chances of finding a nice empty stretch of road to drive in a "spirited" fashion (not dangerously speeding but maybe a tad over in places) are pretty slim these days.

Add on the influx of cyclists around here and I've pretty much given up, roads are just too busy now.
 
Puzzled said:
I'm finding that 4/5 times now when going out for a drive you just end up stuck behind someone ambling along. Doesn't seem to matter what time you go out, the chances of finding a nice empty stretch of road to drive in a "spirited" fashion (not dangerously speeding but maybe a tad over in places) are pretty slim these days.

Add on the influx of cyclists around here and I've pretty much given up, roads are just too busy now.
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Yep I get that almost every day when going to work on B roads. Some nervous driver with their foot constantly on the brake driving 20mph to slow. Usually a mile long queue behind them so no way to get past. Surely they must get sick of seeing people right up their arse all the time.

The health and safety state has taught some people to be scared of everything. Not just driving.
 
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