Tories lost the 2019 election among working age adults

I am surprised that there still has been no talk, as far as i am aware, to legalize Cannabis in the UK. Surely getting it legalised, regulated and taxed then surely that would bring an influx of much needed cash directed towards the NHS. Maybe not all that is needed but would be a start.
 
cheesyboy said:
You have been living here for the past decade, right? Y'know, where it's been stable (pre-covid) and yet we've had the sustained slowest rate of growth in the past 50+ years.
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But that growth was affordable in comparison to Labour buying unstainable investment in the public sector just to pay more people to have unnecessary jobs.
 
ZXSpectrum said:
I am surprised that there still has been no talk, as far as i am aware, to legalize Cannabis in the UK. Surely getting it legalised, regulated and taxed then surely that would bring an influx of much needed cash directed towards the NHS. Maybe not all that is needed but would be a start.
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The centre of British politics is utterly anti-cannabis.
 
cheesyboy said:
But, they've been massively rewarded for the huge growth in value. Why shouldn't some of that pay forward to future generations who suffer as a result?
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You can't raid people who've made wise investments otherwise we'll end up like a banana republic that no one wishes to invest in.
 
We could / should tax heavier, income from rental properties. Maybe it could be tied to existing council tax bands. This should be tapered towards the higher rent properties so any increase passed on to tenants would be hitting the wealthy.
 
thenewoc said:
You can't raid people who've made wise investments otherwise we'll end up like a banana republic that no one wishes to invest in.
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We can certainly ensure there's at least some generational fairness by not designing taxes to only take from younger people (like NI does). Especially when those taxes are to pay for old-people services.

Unless you're a government propped up by the old, I suppose. In which case you lean all your decisions toward favouring the retired. As per thread topic.
 
thenewoc said:
Don't forget the Tories inherited an economy in a terrible state of affairs from Labour, their mess didn't get wiped clean with a change of government.
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Usually after a negative shock, you see rapid growth in recovery. The Tories instead have held growth down with austerity, whilst failing anyway to control the deficit.

They've been abjectly terrible for the economy, make no mistake
 
cheesyboy said:
We can certainly ensure there's at least some generational fairness by not designing taxes to only take from younger people (like NI does). Especially when those taxes are to pay for old-people services.

Unless you're a government propped up by the old, I suppose. In which case you lean all your decisions toward favouring the retired. As per thread topic.
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It doesn't just take from younger people, it takes from all those of working age and more so from those earning more.
 
thenewoc said:
It doesn't just take from younger people, it takes from all those of working age and more so from those earning more.
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People younger than the old who are benefitting.

And to take anything at all from minimum wage workers, and those similarly low paid, who are earning below 'living wage' is unconscionable frankly.
 
cheesyboy said:
Usually after a negative shock, you see rapid growth in recovery. The Tories instead have held growth down with austerity, whilst failing anyway to control the deficit.

They've been abjectly terrible for the economy, make no mistake
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That just goes to show how bad the deficit was / is and they couldn't continue to spend on fake jobs like Labour would by swelling the size of the state / public sector.
 
cheesyboy said:
People younger than the old who are benefitting.

And to take anything at all from minimum wage workers, and those similarly low paid, who are earning below 'living wage' is unconscionable frankly.
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The minimum wage that the Tories have increased several times you mean?
 
thenewoc said:
That just goes to show how bad the deficit was / is and they couldn't continue to spend on fake jobs like Labour would by swelling the size of the state / public sector.
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They've had a decade and still failed to bring growth and deficit reduction. A decade!

The US suffered as well, worse. But they've grown way faster thanks to not pursuing austerity. The Tories have ****** us all.
 
cheesyboy said:
They've had a decade and still failed to bring growth and deficit reduction. A decade!

The US suffered as well, worse. But they've grown way faster thanks to not pursuing austerity. The Tories have ****** us all.
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You can't compare the UK with the US who have no regard for controlling their deficit, it's just kicked further down the generational road.
 
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