To bad there's no evidence that interest rates have any effect on inflation.
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GPU price war
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To bad there's no evidence that interest rates have any effect on inflation.
I would understand if GPU chip was hand made but they not, all chips is made by computers today so I don't see why there is a shortage in the first place! or it could be that they want the prices on GPU to go higher to get rid of the last stock so when Nvidia brings out the 40series cards it would be near same price £2,099/£1,899 mark and blame it on the pandemic for the high price hike.
Building PC on a budget is coming to end.
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Yeah and all the raw materials just get made by computers out of thin air.
All the computers themselves just appear by magic out of nowhere and so do the robots.
Where do you work? Because anyone who knew how manufacturing works would know it takes a lot more than computers.
As if by magic!
a better video which i think does demonstrate your point clearly - 10 years of AMD APU development
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If we are running out of Earth raw materials like Silicon as Silicon is used in many products also GPU then the industry needs to change what we use. Nvidia talks about the green program in 2012 The metals, components, and plastics found in this computer hardware can often be reused in future products oh yes the future big talk story just like cutting carbon from the air oh yes we start in 2030/40 on car diesel. Foster Fuels in 2050 yes that's the big future ideal but we can blame the setback year on the pandemic we begin to start it after that year.
And who fault was it to use robots in manufacturing in the first place father Christmas? Now days nearly everything is made with computer robots and a use of a computers to program them with magic elves.
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Whatever it is you are taking the dosage is far too high.
No its not. People were only ready to pay those prices due to the pandemic and everyone being locked at home/quarantined with no other way to spend disposable income . As COVID moves out, people start going on vacations, no one will pay these prices. If prices remain in crazy territory, all that has to happen is for the PS5 and XSX to be available enmasse so they can keep budget GPU pricing in check. I expect the mid-range/low-end prices to stabilise. At the high end NVIDIA may maintain the prices as those who spent so much on those GPUs will likely do so again. But unless you are playing at 4k, no one needs a 3080 Ti / 3090 for PC gaming,
Actually net margin is rather irrelevant if you want to analyze the financials. There would likely be one-off impairment charges, COVID expenses etc included in that. What you should look at is the EBITDA margins as they contain the core business results and there has been record growth for AMD and NVIDIA in 2021.
Latency issues. I think the PS5 would be a better buy.
I think he and ljt are smoking the same thing... ljt from this thread https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/a-year-on-from-30-series-release.18940725/ .
Both not living in the real world and expecting the world to bend over backward for them because they feel they are entitled to their wants and needs at the price they think is fair for a product.
Guessing some need to get out in the real world and start paying bills and not asking their parents for everything and understanding what things really cost.
I think he and ljt are smoking the same thing... ljt from this thread https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/a-year-on-from-30-series-release.18940725/ .
Both not living in the real world and expecting the world to bend over backward for them because they feel they are entitled to their wants and needs at the price they think is fair for a product.
Guessing some need to get out in the real world and start paying bills and not asking their parents for everything and understanding what things really cost.
Not sure you understand what I was getting at in that thread.
We are talking about luxury goods not necessities like food and utilities etc.
I was asked what price I thought a GPU should be, so I simply said what I thought they were worth to me. I don't see the problem with it. I'm quite happy not to part with my money on something I dont deem worth it.
If companies keep asking these ridiculous prices I'll just move onto a new hobby like I have in the past, it's no skin off my nose.
I'm not going around like AORUS stating there's some big conspiracy going on. I simply don't care about why the prices are so high because it means **** all to me, i have zero interest in the excuses. Just tell me the price and I'll decide if I think it's worth parting with my cash. If its more than I think it's worth I'll happily just walk away and keep my money until I deem something worthwhile.
Silicon is the second most abundant element in the earth's crust
It's literally (purified) sand.The availability of rare-earth elements might become an issue in other parts of the sector.
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They are for now but i would still buy the 3060
Could be the way it go`s in the future regardless of the cost a of graphic card.
Silicon is the second most abundant element in the earth's crust
The availability of rare-earth elements might become an issue in other parts of the sector.
You could say that about the kids sand pit when it was new early summer
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Silicon is the second most abundant element in the earth's crust
The availability of rare-earth elements might become an issue in other parts of the sector.
It has to be the right type of sand. Same as when mixing concrete you need a specific type of sand otherwise it doesn't work.
The sand used to make silicone is running out or cannot be harvested in required quantities whilst it replenishes stocks naturally.
It's a bit like saying we have lots of water. How can there be deserts and people dieing of thirst? The oceans aren't drinkable and you cannot use them to water crops. You have to have the right type of water for it to be drinkable.
True, which is why desert sand is useless. It doesn't bind well thanks to it being rounded. They're currently raping the sea beds and beaches for the right type of sand in some countries and selling it by the lorry loads.
No it's not conspiracy act
The main problem is Computer business are dumping more and not enough is done on recycle those metals to make new PC components, as we keep taken more & more raw materials like Silicon from the Earth mining and in return computers from western Europe and the US half million computers arrive in Lagos every month in large landfills and children have too pick through the toxic dumps to earn the cash for a living and the EU will tighter there recycling E-waste rules by 2030 toxic-free and fully circular economy by 2050 In the mean time we continue dumping electronic and electrical waste. United States generated 6.92 million tons of waste only 15% was recycled properly, the US dumping grounds is Latin America, Asia, Africa, India 3 million tons of waste is dumped annually it's is likely to be over 100 million tonnes by 2050 just in time when the EU rules change. The world generated 44.7 million metric tonnes of e-waste.
The chip manufacturing said We have surging demand and limited supply though. They're selling absolutely everything they can build right now. GPUs and other chips gobbled up by the cryptocurrency that has taken world markets by storm but because of the US & China trade war continues the tensions at play in technology world Chinese tech companies hoarded chips and chip-making equipment if sanctions tighten, China exports to US will drop further. China Taiwan’s TSMC plans to spend $28B semiconductor manufacturing facility taken two years or more to construct it and Intel recently said it will spend $20 billion to build two new fabs in Arizona but this chip shortage to last through 2022 and into 2023 news.
The main problem is Computer business are dumping more and not enough is done on recycle those metals to make new PC components, as we keep taken more & more raw materials like Silicon from the Earth mining and in return computers from western Europe and the US half million computers arrive in Lagos every month in large landfills and children have too pick through the toxic dumps to earn the cash for a living and the EU will tighter there recycling E-waste rules by 2030 toxic-free and fully circular economy by 2050 In the mean time we continue dumping electronic and electrical waste. United States generated 6.92 million tons of waste only 15% was recycled properly, the US dumping grounds is Latin America, Asia, Africa, India 3 million tons of waste is dumped annually it's is likely to be over 100 million tonnes by 2050 just in time when the EU rules change. The world generated 44.7 million metric tonnes of e-waste.
The chip manufacturing said We have surging demand and limited supply though. They're selling absolutely everything they can build right now. GPUs and other chips gobbled up by the cryptocurrency that has taken world markets by storm but because of the US & China trade war continues the tensions at play in technology world Chinese tech companies hoarded chips and chip-making equipment if sanctions tighten, China exports to US will drop further. China Taiwan’s TSMC plans to spend $28B semiconductor manufacturing facility taken two years or more to construct it and Intel recently said it will spend $20 billion to build two new fabs in Arizona but this chip shortage to last through 2022 and into 2023 news.
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Roughly 4,000 units per day on graphic cards is built so what happen to all the two year stock list!
I am not starting any conspiracy just opinions and what media prints
I worked for my living and paid my taxes now I retried, some people need to study more about how the real world works and people in it. Not sit in an office
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@Joxeon posted something similar in the Ryzen 3D cache thread a few weeks ago and I'll tell you what I told him which is if China was to ever invade Taiwan GPU prices should be least of your concerns.
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Just buy the plenty of second hand market in the January/February sell-off..
LOL - it didnt happen before and wont happen then