The funny thing is that Max and Horner actually keep saying stuff like "well as you can see both drivers left the track anyway". They can't honestly believe that this is fair racing, they are just talking smack. Yes...drivers tend to have to leave the track as well when forced to.
Poll: Saudi Arabian Grand Prix 2021, Jeddah - Race 21
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On the rules front- I think there does seem to be some rethinking on the penalty front going forward.
Max and Lewis often end up miles ahead of everyone else, which means time penalties don't do anything. I think position drops or point reductions should come in as punishments for more severe transgressions in future seasons, in case we have another situation where two drivers are ridiculously faster than everyone else.
Max and Lewis often end up miles ahead of everyone else, which means time penalties don't do anything. I think position drops or point reductions should come in as punishments for more severe transgressions in future seasons, in case we have another situation where two drivers are ridiculously faster than everyone else.
Yep, he just brakes incredibly late ensuring he won't make the corner, but also ensuring that the other car won't make it either/stay ahead of him.
It isnt good racing if the only way to keep your position is to brake so late that you go off the track. Its just cheating, and a Max just keeps on doing it.
When he did it yesterday after the 1st restart, he totally **** Lewis because he rejoined and pushed him out wide, allowing OCON to pass him too.
If we hark back a couple of years (or maybe pre-Max), in isolation that would have been a serious incident. Commentators would have slated him, it would have been called dangerous and he would have been penalised for it. But now it's practically swept under the carpet.
I mean ffs Max rejoined the road, slapped across the front of Lewis who had to take major avoiding action (brake and go wide) which in the end lost him two places unfairly. Madness.
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I used to think that but the more times goes on the more I think they believe their own rhetoric.
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A bit dramatic. We've seen hijinx and mind games throughout F1. You want to shut the drama down? You'll be complaining it's boring then.
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I thought that was a brilliant race. You never knew what was going to happen next.
I'm so surprised everyone's being so hard on Max. What is the guy expected to do - just let Hamilton cruise past? Of course he's going to let him pass before the DRS detection zone, and run him wide and push every limit. All the greats have pushed the limits. Senna, Prost, Schumacher - they all 'cheated'. That's how you win.
Watching a superior car cruise to an uncontested victory is about as dull as F1 gets.
I'm so surprised everyone's being so hard on Max. What is the guy expected to do - just let Hamilton cruise past? Of course he's going to let him pass before the DRS detection zone, and run him wide and push every limit. All the greats have pushed the limits. Senna, Prost, Schumacher - they all 'cheated'. That's how you win.
Watching a superior car cruise to an uncontested victory is about as dull as F1 gets.
Max made no effort to rejoin safely, he was only concerned with stopping Lewis getting past.
Yep. It's bizarre. Max was just dangerous yesterday and a DSQ wouldn't have been unfair. He needs teaching a lesson that continually cheating isn't acceptable.
There's a difference between racing hard and fierce competition....and acting like a child and driving straight through corners when you've been beaten by a better driver.
Max needs to grow up.
I'd love to see a fair scrap between those two for the title. The awful cars don't help, but all the 'drama' being reduced to negotiating with the race director, and Max driving people off the circuit. Yawn.
Max needs to grow up.
I'd love to see a fair scrap between those two for the title. The awful cars don't help, but all the 'drama' being reduced to negotiating with the race director, and Max driving people off the circuit. Yawn.
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Having slept on it, that easily has to be one of the worst races I’ve seen in terms of control, or lack of it.
DC was winding me up comparing Max and Hamilton incident with his in Spa ‘98
No pal, Schumacher was completely unsighted because of spray.
Quite glad Max let Hamilton past because I dread to think what would happen in combat with shot tyres
One day Max will get his comeuppance and poetic justice says it will be in Abu Dhabi
DC was winding me up comparing Max and Hamilton incident with his in Spa ‘98
No pal, Schumacher was completely unsighted because of spray.
Quite glad Max let Hamilton past because I dread to think what would happen in combat with shot tyres
One day Max will get his comeuppance and poetic justice says it will be in Abu Dhabi
No it's not, Max clearly has very little regard for safety, demonstrated multiple times this season. His massive impact in Silverstone, his tyre going over Lewis's head, 2.4 G brake tests, rejoining tracks without a care in the world. All things he could have avoided by racing clean. And that's just this season.
Whilst I agree, watching any attempted overtake on Max is pure entertainment, this is not WWE. Its a race, and one with rules to encourage fair racing, with minimal if any contact, so the fastest driver/car/tactics combination wins.
We simply do no get this with Max's "defending". Racing hard, and making mistakes is part of the game, but the pattern here with Max is simply always the same. He will attempt to put you off if you do not sail by on the straight.
Everyone else manages it 99% of the time, but for some reason, overtaking Max becomes a pure lottery every time.
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What's your view on Schumacher? Dirty driver, undeserved of his titles?
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Hurr durr it's been done in the past so it's fine
Hamilton has seven world championships and I don't remember him 'cheating'.
Changing the subject I see. What does my views of Schumacher have to do with Max? It's plain as day, everyone can see it. Well, apart from RBR, Max and their fans, according to them driving like you're in a BTCC car is completely acceptable at 200+ Kph.
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I'm just trying to bring up comparisons, you know, in the same sport. Sorry, seems a bit much of an ask of you. Proceed.
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I'm not sure Albon would agree with you.
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Im hoping Lewis takes it this year, then next Merc and Redbull are further back in 2022 and Lewis doesn't feel he has to jump out of the way for the Championship.
People need to start just leaving the car there and letting carnage happen, but it's an expensive lesson to go through.
People need to start just leaving the car there and letting carnage happen, but it's an expensive lesson to go through.
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