The incident yesterday wasn't a formation lap.
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Honestly watching the highlights last night made me cringe. It was like two primary school kids running to the teacher
This is meant to be the pinnacle of motorsport FFS.While it is a good insight to what is going on behind the scenes the FIA / Team radio comms have somewhat tarnished my view of the sport.
EDIT - Just realised that a double DNF for Lewis and Max would result in the title going to Max on number of wins... because of that one lap joke of a "race" in Belgium. Kind of sums up the season if that is how it pans out!
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Well it sure made for an entertaining race. Most seasons Lewis had it wrapped up by now.
Can't wait for this coming weekend
Baring an incident I don't see Mercedes losing now, Redbull have been faster on only a few occasions, otherwise Mercedes always have the edge.
The fact is on most tracks, Mercedes can catch and pass the Redbull, Redbull don't have that luxury.... Max couldn't even keep up with Bottas before the pitstop and Hamilton was able to stay with Max on a slower tyre in dirty air. If anyone still thinks the Redbull is the better car then they're deluded or trolling.
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See the difference between the teams is Mercedes have a no blame culture, win as a team lose as a team, Red bull have a blame everybody else and everyone else is wrong culture
RBR seem to change their rhetoric when it suits them. You can't race like that (Silverstone) or just let them race (Brazil).
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Well put.
It was exactly this that stopped me watching BTCC and sours my enthusiasm for F1 too.
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"RBR seem to change their rhetoric when it suits them. You can't race like that (Silverstone) or just let them race (Brazil)."
Both circumstances were vasty different because of the speeds involved so there is no comparison. I hope we see much of the same next week as it certainly makes the races more interesting and anything that winds up the Lewis fanboys is always a bonus...
Both circumstances were vasty different because of the speeds involved so there is no comparison. I hope we see much of the same next week as it certainly makes the races more interesting and anything that winds up the Lewis fanboys is always a bonus...
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Not try to straight line a chicane (from behind going into T1) then rejoin the track aiming at his competitors so others have to take significant avoiding action and lose places (Lap 15).
Not brake so late he has no chance of reasonably making a turn (Lap 37), just to stop others making it too/passing him.
Not deliberately brake check his competition and cause a collision trying to 'strategically' hand a place back (later in Lap 37)
Not let a driver pass (after you brake checked them the first time) and immediately re-challenge them into the following corner (Lap 42) (IIRC others have been specifically penalised for doing this)
Additionally laughable but not Max's fault - the FIA then threatening to black & white flag Lewis for when Max tried to brake later down the outside and Lewis didn't 'leave him room' (Lap 43)
He made a good (great even) move up the inside on one of the starts (Lap 17) with his tyre advantage, took two places by being aggressive and bold in his approach but entirely fair, making the corner and not leaving much room for anyone to follow him through turn 2. That's fine, no complaints about that (well unless you're Lewis later in the race, then the FIA threaten to flag you for not leaving room).
You mean like when DR was there and they came together multiple times? Completely forgot about this one.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2017/7/ricciardo-bemoans-verstappens-amateur-error.html
You need your eyes checked if you think Lewis's terms of engagement in any way compare to the absolute ****show, dangerous nonsense that Verstappen was pulling.Hamilton was also given a warning so lets not pretend he's innocent in all of this, they both gave as good as they got.... And that's just fine!
I read your post and assumed you were talking about the other time when he brake-checked him. Nope, another evidence of dangerous/poor driving. Ramming it down the inside in frustration and taking his teammate out too. lol. The more research you do on his driving, the more the evidence stacks up. We should be comparing him to Mazepin, not Hamilton
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I need to watch it back at some point as I can't remember the exact sequences of things, so much happened. The point stands though - drivers have been given drive through penalties for it in the past.
Mercedes have been faster since their Silverstone upgrade (though we didn't know it at the time as their squatting suspension wasn't as effective with Silverstone's highspeed corners), barring a couple of races where they were more or less equal or mere tenths apart (Zandvoort/COTA, but have either conspired to throw it away or had misfortune (eg Spa weather/non race).
I hope not. I don't want to see the championship decided in a court room. It needs put to bed at the chequered flag in this season of all seasons.
Hamilton was warned for his driving, fact... Get over it, he's human like everybody else!
Max is driving in an inferior car most weekends, so he has to be aggressive to maintain track position as they don't have the pace / straight line speed to catch and overtake Mercedes.
I read your post and assumed you were talking about the other time when he brake-checked him. Nope, another evidence of dangerous/poor driving. Ramming it down the inside in frustration and taking his teammate out too. lol. The more research you do on his driving, the more the evidence stacks up. We should be comparing him to Mazepin, not Hamilton
That Azerbaijan one was just as stupid as the one yesterday with both partly to blame but for differing reasons.
The point doesn't stand as it wasn't a formation lap. They were returning to the grid to start after a red flag which is not a formation lap. There are no rules about car distances for this scenario IIRC. It's a loophole which Lewis is very well aware of and he used it to rile up Max/RBR and it worked.
Baring in mind Max has been taken out by Hamilton and Bottas this season, it's impressive they've even level on points.
You can count the races where RBR have had a performance advantage on one hand, Mercedes have had a edge most the season but under performed on tracks they should have won on.
You watch stuff like this back and everyone is giving him the benefit of the doubt, just young, misjudges it a bit etc. but it's exactly what he's still doing now - brakes later than he should because he's so desperate to get in front, won't realistically make the corner and the drivers around him have a choice - abandon the corner with him or get hit.
The only difference now is that more people have cottoned on and take the 'avoid' option rather than try to make their own turn and get hit.
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Hamilton was also given a warning so lets not pretend he's innocent in all of this, they both gave as good as they got.... And that's just fine!
A bit of a ridiculous warning, given everything thrown at him for several races without a single mention of a warning to Max. Brazil opened a can of worms.
I know he was. Tinfoil-hat theories aside, I'm just pointing out that what Hamilton did was in no way comparable to Verstappen's dangerous driving. Get over it, yourself.
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