Greenlizard0 PL & Championship Football Thread ** spoilers ** [1st - 3rd January 2022]

Neither were debatable, but both were bloody stupid of him, which is even more annoying.

Yeah entire loss a bit painful for you guys, every marginal decision went City's way (and one wrong tbh), but shot yourselves in the foot so badly especially after the penalty was awarded
 
Yeah entire loss a bit painful for you guys, every marginal decision went City's way (and one wrong tbh), but shot yourselves in the foot so badly especially after the penalty was awarded
Everyone’s laughing at us about the result over all the forums and Twitter, but I can’t remember anytime this season City have been outplayed like they were in the first half.

It’s very disappointing, but there were lots of positives to take imo. Not many teams will get the better of us when we play like that.

Is it wrong of me to hope Ghana get knocked out early so Partey can come back?
 
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Everyone’s laughing at us about the result over all the forums and Twitter, but I can’t remember anytime this season City have been outplayed like they were in the first half.

It’s very disappointing, but there were lots of positives to take imo. Not many teams will get the better of us when we play like that.

Which forum is that because i frequent RAWK a lot and they arent. They are just calling VAR a joke.

How Ederson hasnt given a penalty away i dont know. Flying out of his box, studs showing straight into Odeguard.

There's just no consistency in anything at the moment. Should Silva have got a pen? Probably...but then Maguire fouled an Arsenal (Tomiyasu i think) player not even a month ago by dragging his arm and they got nothing only a month ago. United win that game by...a penalty. Certain teams are getting the big calls go for them at the moment and one of them is City. This is from Rawk but tbf it is pretty accurate:

Man City's last five games:

Vs Wolves - incorrect penalty decision confirmed by VAR

Vs Newcastle - stonewall penalty against Fraser not awarded

Vs Leicester - penalty given to Man City via VAR for shirt holding that happens on every corner

Vs Brentford - N/A

Vs Arsenal - penalty not given to Arsenal; penalty given to City via VAR


The media dont help though to be fair. Certain other players do what Silva did and they're getting deportation shouts.
 
For those still on the fence about the ederson tackle.

https://streamable.com/ph2j9c

Doesn't even touch the ball after going through the man with the studs up. There wasn't much momentum/force behind the tackle and the foots low so I wouldn't call for a red card but its not far off. For Var to agree that this is a corner and to not go to the screens for a better look is a joke
 
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There aren't anywhere near the amount of problems with it at international tournaments or in UEFA competitions
The thing is the number of Prem matches dwarfs the number of international tournament games or UEFA matches involving English teams. We play 380 league matches a season (all analysed in detail on TV/media because there are English fans of every team), realistically most people probably see about 40 European matches max in enough detail to see VAR incidents (god knows what happens in Europa League games in Timbuktu), then even if it is WC year that's only 64 matches even if you watch detailed highlights of every one.

If we weren't spotting a lot more 'issues' with VAR in the EPL compared to international and UEFA comps then something would be wrong. This season alone there will have been about 200 EPL games covered by VAR, who can honestly say they've watched anywhere near 200 International tournament or UEFA comp games since August?
 
For those still on the fence about the ederson tackle.

https://streamable.com/ph2j9c

Doesn't even touch the ball after going through the man with the studs up. There wasn't much momentum/force behind the tackle and the foots low so I wouldn't call for a red card but its not far off. For Var to agree that this is a corner and to not go to the screens for a better look is a joke

That looks 50-50 to me. Are you saying the keeper isn't allowed to go for the ball? If anything it looks like Odegaard is trying to stamp on Edersons foot and if he didn't stamp on Edersons foot he would have touched the ball as you can clearly see Odegaard initiates the contact not the other way around. It is not clear and obvious is the point which is why VAR didn't interfere.

As with the Silva penalty if Xhaka wasn't stupid enough to pull on his shirt nothing would have happened.

Var is only there to intervene if a clear and obvious mistake has been made. They are the rules.
 
Odegaard has control of the ball. Ederson is flying in with his studs up trying to win the ball, doesnt and takes the man out who still can get the ball if he isnt fouled.

As for the Man City penalty, id love to know what the ref didnt see to deem that worthy of going to the screen.
 
As with stamping (which that wasn't) it always looks worse viewing the last 0.2 seconds at slow motion. I don't think they should be viewed in slow motion, they should be viewed at the speed the game was being played. As shown in the video above and I've seen on twitter loads of people say it's Ederson being stamped on. Where as in reality it's 0.1 of a second where he's trying to place his left leg back down. No player can think about timing a foot placement at the speed of the game.

As for Ederson I don't mind those sort of challenges, it's not like you can slide with your foot down. You would break your own leg. So the only option would be to never slide in, the games been softened up enough and played by pampered babies lets try not to make it a non contact sport.
 
Odegaard has control of the ball. Ederson is flying in with his studs up trying to win the ball, doesnt and takes the man out who still can get the ball if he isnt fouled.

As for the Man City penalty, id love to know what the ref didnt see to deem that worthy of going to the screen.

If he had control of the ball that situation would have never happened. Instead he took a heavy touch which gave Ederson the chance to get across.
 
If he had control of the ball that situation would have never happened. Instead he took a heavy touch which gave Ederson the chance to get across.
Odegaard literally has the ball by his foot. Ederson has gone in recklessly and taken him out. He doesnt win the ball whatsoever. Its such a clear foul.
 
His first yellow was for digging up the penalty spot in front of the ref before the penalty, and the second was for a clear yellow card tackle after he lost his head

Ramsdale did the same to the penalty spot but didn't get carded? They showed a camera angle from behind the goal a few minutes after the goal went in. Surprised he wasn't punished as well as var would have had that angle as well surely?
 
Lukaku dropped for the match against Liverpool according to BBC, not surprising really.

He somehow got MOTM over Bissouma in the match against Brighton, I assume Chelsea have some Covid/injury players back available.
 
Chelsea leave Lukaku out of the squad for today's game, are they mad?

Sure no players are bigger than the club and it was an absolute idiotic interview for Lukaku to do but over the last two games he's been on form scoring goals and giving that attacking threat Chelsea have missed over the last month.

Mind you Lukaku always goes missing in the big games!
 
The ref said it was a yellow for something he said apparently, not for studding the penalty spot. Another dodgy referee incident is this:


WTF is he doing, i'm pretty sure he put him off.
This was absolutely ridiculous. He has no reason to be charging into the box like that, and then he cuts across Martinelli unsighting him. Atwell should be dropped from the next round of games imo. You can’t let inconsistency and incompetence like this slide.
 
LOL that clip of the ref charging into the box

Not sure if Arsenal were playing much better than usual, City were gassed from the schedule or bit of both.
Really can’t remember Arsenal having such a good game vs City after Pep’s first year. Certainly made the fixture entertaining for the first time in a while
 
LOL that clip of the ref charging into the box

Not sure if Arsenal were playing much better than usual, City were gassed from the schedule or bit of both.
Really can’t remember Arsenal having such a good game vs City after Pep’s first year. Certainly made the fixture entertaining for the first time in a while

We were massively better than usual all across the park, City were a bit off too to be fair but they need to be for us to have had a chance really.
 
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