The 12600k has decent multi threading going for it beating the 5800X in most workloads so it still offers good value to those who want to do more than just game but the 5600X is doesnt have that advantage and is really being shown up here.
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Why mention AMD CPU's at all? I was talking about Intel's issue of making the 12400 steal sales from the 12600K, not from AMD, who cares about what the 5800X or 5600X is good at, we are talking Intel here.
His but is really hurt.
Sounds like it's the other way around tbh.
Because it's also competing with AMDs CPUs if you haven't noticed.
Competing is a stong word. Attempting is probably more fitting.
If the 12400F releases at anywhere near £150 vs £250+ for the 5600X then competing is probably not strong enough, only an idiot would buy the 5600X unless they already had a compatible board and even then it's still debatable depending on the price and features of the B and H boards.
Still plenty of reasons to go with AMD. I just hope your butt isn’t too hurt when the 12400F is released. The 400 chips are usually a difficult proposition particularly if the goal is pimping a chip as a supporting act for an Nvidia graphics card
That still isn't tackling what my whole post was about, which is cannibalising your own sales, something Intel have never been keen to do since the days of proper overclocking and the Pentium II/III era CPU's, they restricted and segmented the market as much as possible to maximise revenue, and having a part that could be considered so close in performance with unlocked RAM and power limits is dong exactly what they previously didn't want you to do. Someone considering a CPU at ~£250-80 is only going to look at the £160-70 12400 and say, why bother with the 12600K?
My guess is that they are prepared to lose some sales on the 12600k but then it's still better those sales staying with Intel rather than going to AMD and as I said the 12600k still has far superior MT performance for those that want it so there is still a valid reason to spend the extra if you want that extra performance.
toms tested it with a 3090 and it beat the 5600X so I'm guessing it will do just fine.Still plenty of reasons to go with AMD. I just hope your butt isn’t too hurt when the 12400F is released. The 400 chips are usually a difficult proposition particularly if the goal is pimping a chip as a supporting act for an Nvidia graphics card
How did it do with an RDNA2 card at 4K
Better polish those pimping skills or swap teams.
25 fps in minecraft RTX.How did it do with an RDNA2 card at 4K
Better polish those pimping skills or swap teams.
25 fps in minecraft RTX.
links? Really need 25 fps in Minecraft.
Yep, 12400f + b660 = no reason for anyone to buy a 5600x. Even if you already have an old x470 it won't be worth it because the price of b660 + 12400f is less than the price of just the 5600x.
AMD has some mirror looking time to do
Intel has some major spade work to start. I don’t think Intel can afford to sell its CPU’s and graphics cards at a loss while they undertake the CPU and business overhaul.
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Yeap especially when you factor in selling the old board to offset costs further.
I'm not really concerned how much money Intel makes from these because at the end of the day it's a big win for the consumer who no longer needs to be held up with AMDs Dick Turpin prices.
If Alder lake launched on Soc 1200 and had support for Nova lake I think Intel could gain some traction and go some way to repairing trust in the company, though the attempts to strong arm TSMC into wasting its 5/3nm supply for entry level CPU and APUs isn’t great way to win over the market.
Haha. Intel isn’t going to supplement Nvidia graphics card. They want to take sales away from Nvidia.