New build coming from a 2013 Vintage PC

Thank guys for highlightng options I hadn't thought of.

At the moment I'm minded to go with the Intel spec above (MSI Pro Z690-a board & a 12700K) as it's the best i'm prepared to spend out on at the minute. However, I'm also debating the 5800X as it can be had £50ish cheaper and pairing that with a Gigabyte Aorus Pro B550 v2 or a X570 Gaming Edge Wifi (not that I need Wifi, but wil be nice to have when passed down), OK I lose some functionality (PCIiE 5 and 4 NVME), but (hopefully) get a higher quality board for less cost. I'd be in the same boat as regard expandabiity if I went B660, so Z690 seems the logical choice if going Intel but the £200 boards seem to be described as budget!

The 3060ti, I was just lucky to get hold of and has really forced my hand at the minute but it will likely to be replaced at some point, wheras the cpu/mb/ram will be unlikely to change, for at least a few years.

I hadn't thought of the 10 series or the 12400 so that's another rabbit hole! I don't chase massive performance so I don't get the upgrade itch often when it comes to core system upgrades.
 
You've been overwhelmed by to many options .

The msi is s budget board but still capable for your needs and the Wi-Fi version is £20 more.

Maybe take a step back till the b660 are released.
 
mickyflinn said:
You've been overwhelmed by to many options .

The msi is s budget board but still capable for your needs and the Wi-Fi version is £20 more.

Maybe take a step back till the b660 are released.
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you can buy them now away, or at least get idea's of pricing if waiting for OCuk....I thought B660 gpu slot was meant to be all pcie4?...just looked at the B660M Steel Legend at £146.99, which says gpu slot is pcie5
 
Mercurial said:
However, I'm also debating the 5800X as it can be had £50ish cheaper and pairing that with a Gigabyte Aorus Pro B550 v2 or a X570 Gaming Edge Wifi (not that I need Wifi, but wil be nice to have when passed down), OK I lose some functionality (PCIiE 5 and 4 NVME)
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Someone correct me if i'm wrong but both b550 and x570 support pcie4.0 for nvme, PCIe5 I wouldn't really be even considering as a reason to not go with a board/platform.
 
It's done. Many thanks for all the advice given and i've had a crash course in what is available :)

I have decided that the MSI Pro-A/12700K is the right one to go for at for the moment. You can always wait and something better will always appear, and this will certainly be a major upgrade from what i'm using at the moment!
 
Mercurial said:
It's done. Many thanks for all the advice given and i've had a crash course in what is available :)

I have decided that the MSI Pro-A/12700K is the right one to go for at for the moment. You can always wait and something better will always appear, and this will certainly be a major upgrade from what i'm using at the moment!
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Did you get a cpu cooler with a skt 1700 backplate?
 
mickyflinn said:
Did you get a cpu cooler with a skt 1700 backplate?
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Yes! The one you mentioned from OC (Arctic Freezer 34), if I end up getting a better one when there is more clear support I can always use it in my daughters Ryzen so all good.

PS. It ships with the adapter as a separate item automatically from OC so a complete win.
 
Journey said:
I'd go with a super cheap build, something like a 10400f/B560 and some fast DDR4, you could spend about £300 and still have change. Sell your old parts (the Vega 56 will pay for it all) and then later in the year once the dust settles with DDR5 and the new platforms, get a proper upgrade to either the newer AMD Zen4, or Intel Raptor Lake. The 10400f is an amazing CPU and they are only about £120-130, and it will also hold its value really well.
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This is a pretty good plan, a cheap CPU/MB/DDR4, run for a year, then sell without losing a vast amount of money and then move to a DDR5 system, which should have a lot more longevity. Plus point - get to tinker twice!
 
Mercurial said:
Yes! The one you mentioned from OC (Arctic Freezer 34), if I end up getting a better one when there is more clear support I can always use it in my daughters Ryzen so all good.

PS. It ships with the adapter as a separate item automatically from OC so a complete win.
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Great.

What was your final build spec ?
 
Craig_d1 said:
you can buy them now away, or at least get idea's of pricing if waiting for OCuk....I thought B660 gpu slot was meant to be all pcie4?...just looked at the B660M Steel Legend at £146.99, which says gpu slot is pcie5
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Intresting that some b660 boards are pcie4 not sure what's going on there.
 
mickyflinn said:
Great.

What was your final build spec ?
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Essentially what dfour (big props!) posted earlier;

Though I changed to a non-compact Define 7 and the Arctic Freezer 34 (with adapter :) ). Graphics will be a Nvidia RTX 3060ti FE. It'll all be hooked up to the 2k 27" and 32" monitors I already have.

Should do me for a few years (though probably not as long as my last system I'm guessing!)
 
Mercurial said:
Essentially what dfour (big props!) posted earlier;

Though I changed to a non-compact Define 7 and the Arctic Freezer 34 (with adapter :) ). Graphics will be a Nvidia RTX 3060ti FE. It'll all be hooked up to the 2k 27" and 32" monitors I already have.

Should do me for a few years (though probably not as long as my last system I'm guessing!)
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Enjoy.
 
Mercurial said:
Essentially what dfour (big props!) posted earlier;

Though I changed to a non-compact Define 7 and the Arctic Freezer 34 (with adapter :) ). Graphics will be a Nvidia RTX 3060ti FE. It'll all be hooked up to the 2k 27" and 32" monitors I already have.

Should do me for a few years (though probably not as long as my last system I'm guessing!)
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Im glad I could help. Enjoy :)
 
Just a quick post to close off this thread for any that come after. I built the above spec last weekend and after several days use and messing around monitoring it, I can only say I am dead chuffed with it :). The CPU runs cool enough (<40 idle and <64 on my usual heavy load) and the graphics card although not being top of the line (i'd had an 3080ti in my basket on a previous drop before slapping myself and deciding the 3060ti was the most suitable for my usage, then missing the 3060ti's because of indecision) is enough of a leap from my previous Vega 56 and expections (a bit of VR, but mainly general gaming @2k) to make it worthwhile. the Patriot memory, which although I had read of problems on AMD platforms is running fine at it's XMP setting on this Intel chipset motherboard, which was my only concern upon ordering but the lifetime warranty with OC mitigated that somewhat.

It also all runs so quiet compared to my older machine when busy, without compromising the cooling (though I can see it might be a bit boring looking when compared to my daughters white Lian-Li Lancool II with RGB fans and strips all set to pink(!), but I prefer to call it Bauhaus ;) ), .

It's still not done yet. I've a 2TB P5 (not Plus, 'cos price vs usage) NVMe coming for it to act as a games/VM drive and a couple of old NAS drives to act as archive storage to install, but I think that's all that it needs in the immediate future.

The only thing that isn't quite there is Linux support, but that's not unusual for it to lag a little behind Windows and even that still works fine for my usage, so all good.

Edit: It is also the easiest machine I have ever put together. It just worked, first time with no messing.
 
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Mercurial said:
Just a quick post to close off this thread for any that come after. I built the above spec last weekend and after several days use and messing around monitoring it, I can only say I am dead chuffed with it :). The CPU runs cool enough (<40 idle and <64 on my usual heavy load) and the graphics card although not being top of the line (i'd had an 3080ti in my basket on a previous drop before slapping myself and deciding the 3060ti was the most suitable for my usage, then missing the 3060ti's because of indecision) is enough of a leap from my previous Vega 56 and expections (a bit of VR, but mainly general gaming @2k) to make it worthwhile. the Patriot memory, which although I had read of problems on AMD platforms is running fine at it's XMP setting on this Intel chipset motherboard, which was my only concern upon ordering but the lifetime warranty with OC mitigated that somewhat.

It also all runs so quiet compared to my older machine when busy, without compromising the cooling (though I can see it might be a bit boring looking when compared to my daughters white Lian-Li Lancool II with RGB fans and strips all set to pink(!), but I prefer to call it Bauhaus ;) ), .

It's still not done yet. I've a 2TB P5 (not Plus, 'cos price vs usage) NVMe coming for it to act as a games/VM drive and a couple of old NAS drives to act as archive storage to install, but I think that's all that it needs in the immediate future.

The only thing that isn't quite there is Linux support, but that's not unusual for it to lag a little behind Windows and even that still works fine for my usage, so all good.

Edit: It is also the easiest machine I have ever put together. It just worked, first time with no messing.
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Result.

Damm you should have snagged that 3080 as the vega 56 is worth a lot would have offset the costs, check bay prices you'll be surprised.

Arctic freezer e34 sport is the Mike Tyson of £30 coolers :D
 
Darn straight. It is a result and i'm made up with it.

Also; nah, the 3080ti was total overkill, the 3060ti is the most i've ever paid for a graphics card (the previous high was a Asus Geforce 3 with loads of I/O which was awesome in it's time) and at over £1k just didn't sit right for the resolution I use and my serious usage +games I do. I didn't also realise quite how much my old Vega was worth to be honest (old PC kit is worth naff all right?), and I wasn't just surprised when I checked. Bleedin' hell. I'm debating what to do at the moment relating to it, it might end up funding an upgrade to one of the other machines in the house.

The Arctic Freezer was a brilliant tip btw, I've since ordered another in white for my daughters Ryzen. It really does punch above it's weight in relation to it's cost. I was quite prepared to buy a Noctua of some description, I'm glad I didn't :).
 
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