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Considering the RTX3050 is 50% faster than the 6500xt and has been listed for sale at 250 I think it's a good deal wouldn't you say
50%? You think the RTX 3050 will be as fast as the RX 5700?
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Considering the RTX3050 is 50% faster than the 6500xt and has been listed for sale at 250 I think it's a good deal wouldn't you say
50%? You think the RTX 3050 will be as fast as the RX 5700?
This is why Nvidia treat us the way they do.
It is rumoured to be around 1660 super to 2060 performance, which would put it at about 50% faster.
So 15% slower than an RTX 3060, right gotchya... can't wait.
Yeah, and all the mainstream reviewers did their best to put down a GPU that came in at £179, is that put down going to anywhere near as trying for the RTX 3050 when it comes in at £250 or even £300? No. And they will pat themselves on the back for services to combating the problem.
Hypocrites.
This need to be said, i'm not defending AMD / Nvidia but the blame for it needs to be directed to the right place, if you scream at AMD like Steve Walton does they are just going to shrug their shoulders and say there is nothing we can do about it, because they can't, and nothing changes.
These vendors are not going to point their finger at AIB's, politically its not the thing to do.
But the issue is that it isn't going to stay at £179 and is well over £200 already. If it stayed at £179~£199 it would be OK,but you know it won't.As time progresses we could be seeing £250 or even more.
People have to understand on here,just because many spend £500~£1000 on a dGPU,£250 is hardly a small amount for the type of gamers we are talking about,especially when they are most likely to have older systems where this won't perform as well,because they can't afford to upgrade the system. I don't even understand WTF AMD did making this a PCI-E 4X dGPU - the Zen2 and Zen3 APUs lack PCI-E 4.0! So adding insult to injury AMD not making a wider PCI-E link means,the target market with older systems is essentially getting an RX570 4GB for probably over £200. That sort of money for under RX590 performance in 2022,when most people,especially those on a budget,keep dGPUs for years means it already has no legs.
Even if the RTX3050 is "better" its going to be a GTX1660/GTX1660 Super for similar or more money?? We know the £239 RRP is likely to last for 5 seconds,and with no FE,its probably going to be over £300 within a short time. Even then in 2022,how is GTX1660/GTX1660 Super peformance any good......again Turing stagnated mainstream performance.
So for Turing to happen,followed by this.....no wonder so many mainstream gamers stayed with Polaris/Pascal. As even the Lowspecgamer said,£100 extra over what these kinds of cards used to cost,is like £200 or more in a poorer country(or maybe more).
Is that AMD's fault?
Yes.. they manufactured 6500XT..
Is that AMD's fault?
I am sorry but both of them are a cartel now. Ever since the Hawaii/Maxwell/Polaris/Pascal days,BOTH of them have decided to not push each other. They have priced between each other,to avoid any degree of price competition.
BOTH could release large numbers of no frills reference only cards directly sold from their websites at RRP,but outside a few drops here and there in certain markets to maintain the illusion of a real RRP,it doesn't exist. FE drops only happened in some markets(UK being one),and AMD reference drops were mostly in the US with some happening in the EU. Elsewhere in the world,tough luck.
In the end they are both to blame and people need to see,that them price fixing helps each other.
It's happened before:
https://www.theregister.com/2008/09/30/nvidia_settles_lawsuit/
https://www.theregister.com/2008/09/03/email_exchange_nvidia_ati_price_fixing_cartel/
No, they don't, AIB's do..
To the AMD design spec.. you know this.
Cut out the AIB's? AMD don't have the market share for that.
No, AIB's can put as much VRam on it as they like, they could put 8 on if they wanted to.