Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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What would you like to see happen?
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How many other people lost family members because of Hussein?
Its kinda pot kettle black.
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The assumption there is entirely yours. Many, maybe most, people are rather more sophisticated than your assumption here.
Why is there a "we"? And why, "by default" does that include us with the US? It's a ridiculous stretch to assume the US (and "by default" the uk) is responsible for more deaths than everything else combined.
Again, this is your own prejudice showing.
This is just flat out wrong.
I understand the argument Putin as made to justify this overall invasion on Ukraine i.e. that NATO was moving ever closer to the Russian border and now the question of Ukraine joining NATO give Putin the excuse of supporting rebels inside Ukraine as a pretext for him sending in troops who would then continue from the rebel areas in to the wider country.
But its all predicated on the assumption that NATO was building up some sort of planned attack on Russia. I don't see that happening. Yes the West as been very wary of the political figures inside Russia. I would make a guess this is why the Soviet Union/Russia was denied permission to join NATO 4 times in the past. But Putin himself represents the ending of the old era. NATO was more likely just to wait things out and see what happens after Putin had died.
But its all predicated on the assumption that NATO was building up some sort of planned attack on Russia. I don't see that happening. Yes the West as been very wary of the political figures inside Russia. I would make a guess this is why the Soviet Union/Russia was denied permission to join NATO 4 times in the past. But Putin himself represents the ending of the old era. NATO was more likely just to wait things out and see what happens after Putin had died.
Agreed
I'd suspect quote a lot of Iraqis would agree they're better off not being under Saddam's rule. It's kind of a no-brainer, that isn't to say they liked the US being there in the long term or ISIS etc.. but the removal of Saddam had broad support.
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Honestly the more I see I think Ukraine should just surrender at this point. They have practically been abandoned by the world militarily speaking (and you can’t really blame the west too much as the stakes are so high).
best outcome is complete blockade of Russia by the west, make their economy crumble and their people starve. They can discuss sanction relief once they have removed every last man out of Ukraine.
how likely or possible is the above solution?
best outcome is complete blockade of Russia by the west, make their economy crumble and their people starve. They can discuss sanction relief once they have removed every last man out of Ukraine.
how likely or possible is the above solution?
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If you've been following geopolitical developments then you'd know the west would not have intervened. Many parallels to the russia-georgian conflict back in 2008. Back then Russian onslaught on Tbilisi was stopped through French diplomacy. This time diplomacy failed.
FYI there was literal genocide in Myanmar(Burma) and we barely saw condemnation. It is never about the human suffering, it's always about national interests.
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Oh yes, sorry ... I was getting mixed up with that other model of democratic free-speech
In 2019, Human Rights Watch called the situation of human rights in Azerbaijan "appalling", citing "rigid control" by the government, "severely curtailing freedoms of association, expression, and assembly", as well as "torture and ill-treatment" of journalists, lawyers, and opposition activists.
Yep 20 down leaves them around 1, 180 usable tanks still to go, gove or take, and another 26,980 armoured vehicles after them.
Really heavy damage, really going to slow them down.
It is like fighting against Niagra falls, it will just keep coming, you try to stop a bit, but the flood behind it keeps pushing through.
Are you drunk? lol. The point that UK and US start fighting Russia is the point Russia invades a NATO country, how ever that doesn't happen because as crazy as Putin is he doesn't want to see Russia become a series of craters
Saddam and his sons were well on their way to that figure anyway.
they won't be sending in any troops. The best Ukraine might get will be a fairly toothless UN peacekeeping army. Everyone saying the west needs to show stregnth adn get in there, is basically still playing command and conquer in their heads. Taking a gamble that Putin may or may not be mental enough to go nuclear is not a good strategy.
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So they should just roll over and give up then?
We should have just rolled over during the battle of Britain too
I don't think people should be banned for unpopular opinions, but I do enjoy pointing out their folly.
"Just a military exercise." They said.
This is real life, not Call of Duty of Fallout. Do you really have any idea what you are advocating? Putin is unhinged, the risks are too high to be risking nuclear war. It's an extremely difficult and distressing situation, but there is zero chance the western democracies will put boots on the ground when the action is limited to Ukraine. Even if nuclear weapons weren't in the equation, other than the US none of the European powers have the man or willpower to go toe-to-toe in a conventional war.
I do think Germany will need to have a re-think about their military. But this is going to play out for decades.
I don't think they should at all, ideally Russia should face an insurgency in Ukraine too and more sanctions (if some EU countries pull their fingers out). Putin doesn't have too much hope of taking Western Ukraine if they resist, he's already found it harder than he perhaps expected to get as far as he's managed so far. This whole thing can become a very costly misadventure for Putin at a time when Russia can't afford it - if we're lucky, in the long run, could result in him being toppled from power - "retired for medical reasons" etc..
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Definitely not. They would be banned in Russia.
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