Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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steve45 said:
Neither of them were capable of making a decision when the chips were down, they wernt leadership material. A country needs direction. Boris is far from great but I'd rather him than those other useless meatsacks. The last strong leader we had was, dare I say it, Maggy. Like her or not she had presence and international respect. Something we could really use at a time like this.
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Boris makes decisions? That's news to me. He's famously lazy.

However with this one particular issue I think he's been decent enough.
 
muon said:
This is going quite badly for Putin. If the Ukrainian military don't change sides, he will have to occupy Ukraine with massive long term casualties.

He can win the immediate war (with what sounds like quite a large loss of life and cost), but what about afterwards?
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He's not stupid, thousand's of refugees are flowing out of Ukraine into Poland every hour. Sad to say but when the dust settles and the new pro-Russian government is in place the pro-Russian Ukrainian refugees will return, the anti-Russian ones will not.

Likewise many of the anti-Russian Ukrainians will die in the war, the pro-Russian ones, probably will suffer a lot of casualties too, but the end result will most likely be a shift either back to Ukraine being mostly pro-Russian due to exile/death of the anti-Russian Ukrainians, or a shift large enough to make the country "manageable" :(
 
steve45 said:
Neither of them were capable of making a decision when the chips were down, they wernt leadership material. A country needs direction. Boris is far from great but I'd rather him than those other useless meatsacks. The last strong leader we had was, dare I say it, Maggy. Like her or not she had presence and international respect. Something we could really use at a time like this.
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+1, love her or loathe her. She had presence and conviction in her words.
 
If Russia gets bogged down for a long time in Ukraine we can ensure it's painful by supplying rebels, the cost of occupation on top of all the sanctions will eat right into his rainy day funds.

But then again Putin knows that and may well be willing to use strategic weapons to enforce his goals.
 
Malevolence said:
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That can't be true. That would be embarrassing.

ubersonic said:
He's not stupid, thousand's of refugees are flowing out of Ukraine into Poland every hour. Sad to say but when the dust settles and the new pro-Russian government is in place the pro-Russian Ukrainian refugees will return, the anti-Russian ones will not.

Likewise many of the anti-Russian Ukrainians will die in the war, the pro-Russian ones, probably will suffer a lot of casualties too, but the end result will most likely be a shift either back to Ukraine being mostly pro-Russian due to exile/death of the anti-Russian Ukrainians, or a shift large enough to make the country "manageable" :(
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In the Donbass region, yes. No chance anywhere else. Also Ukraine is a country of something like 45m people. Even a million refugees would be a blip.
 
XeNoN89 said:
I wonder how many paras are on each of these? They are big aircraft!
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Normal passenger capacity is ~60 but if they were using the cargo space too then hundreds.

Having said that it says it was downed. No confirmation if it broke up in the air, crashed hard, or merely managed a controlled crash landing in a field.
 
Was Putin's plan to just show Russia as an embarrassment both politically and militarily? Because he is doing a great job if so.
 
StriderX said:
If Russia gets bogged down for a long time in Ukraine we can ensure it's painful by supplying rebels, the cost of occupation on top of all the sanctions will eat right into his rainy day funds.

But then again Putin knows that and may well be willing to use strategic weapons to enforce his goals.
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Just thought he could deploy his airforce to use the Father of All Bombs if Putin get desperate. I have no idea how many those things Russia has but it's one step away from a nuclear weaponry.
 
Jono8 said:
Was Putin's plan to just show Russia as an embarrassment both politically and militarily? Because he is doing a great job if so.
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Pretty sure Russia's standard military doctrine for the past 600 years has been "we have more soldiers than you, prepare to run out of bullets", it sucks but it's proven hyper-effective.


chroniclard said:
Boris has quite literally done nothing of note, other than backstabbed May, stole her deal, claimed it was his and delivered poverty to the UK with it. :cry:
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Nah, you're forgetting the time his governments track and trace system failed so he renamed it NHS track and trace in the hope people wouldn't know whose system it was xD


lookitsjonno said:
What's entrenched armour?
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Dug in troops/weapons.
 
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