Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Chuk_Chuk said:
NATO is basically America, they run the show.
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I would have thought it was noticeable to most that the US have taken a light touch to Ukraine compared to European countries.

I hope you are enjoying being able to say what you like here. Either you believe what you're writing or simply trolling, you are free to say these things.

The information you receive is not limited, irrespective of what the tin foil hat brigade will have you believe. If you protest in the street you may well get a punch in the face from the police. What you won't get is killed for your beliefs.

I've never used the ignore button on any forum and I don't intend to start now. I don't agree with you but you have a right to say what you think and I'm not insecure enough to have to shield myself from your opinion.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
well ofcourse its going too far because the motion is to get rid of Putin, not Russia. And as fas as i can see we will turn the anti-putin russians to finally side with him because of hunger. Thats a failure and sealing armageddon
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Bingo. Ukraine is a pawn unfortunately Putin is the endgame.
 
Rroff said:
Think the next we see of Putin is going to be telling - if he is still banging out the "you made me do it" rhetoric we should be very wary.
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I don't see it at all, it's getting overplayed.
He didn't even bombard the towns before going in, this saves civilian lives and puts his own troops more at risk(Remember when America liberated Iraq with shock and awe ?).
He isn't going to fire a nuke into the capitol after sending his troops to surround it.
He also initiated peace talks.
 
Amnesia said:
I don't see it at all, it's getting overplayed.
He didn't even bombard the towns before going in, this saves civilian lives and puts his own troops more at risk(Remember when America liberated Iraq with shock and awe ?).
He isn't going to fire a nuke into the capitol after sending his troops to surround it.
He also initiated peace talks.
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People are not willing to hear that. They want blood and that will also mean Ukrainian blood.
 
Amnesia said:
I don't see it at all, it's getting overplayed.
He didn't even bombard the towns before going in, this saves civilian lives and puts his own troops more at risk(Remember when America liberated Iraq with shock and awe ?).
He isn't going to fire a nuke into the capitol after sending his troops to surround it.
He also initiated peace talks.
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He is continuing with his playbook.

What is interesting is that the Russians and the US now know much more about their respective cybersecurity.

He initiated peace talks - not sure about that, observation is that he's simply giving himself room for resupply/regrouping unhindered. The reality is peace talks are available even through the thickest of war.
 
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NickK said:
Indeed. The question is (and this seems odd and perverse) is how can we help the average Russian, penalise the supports of the Ukranian invasion and help Ukraine?
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Look it’s always leaders and generals etc that wage war. Citizens and soldiers have no input or say. Russians are not killing anybody anymore than you and I were in Iraq. De escalation is what’s needed. You’d think this was call of duty the way people are behaving in here. It’s shameful.
 
Amnesia said:
I don't see it at all, it's getting overplayed.
He didn't even bombard the towns before going in, this saves civilian lives and puts his own troops more at risk(Remember when America liberated Iraq with shock and awe ?).
He isn't going to fire a nuke into the capitol after sending his troops to surround it.
He also initiated peace talks.
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He has however been slowly moving up the ladder in terms of severity of action while using a rhetoric of his hand being forced. If he continues with that rhetoric we'll likely see it turned up a notch again, and again.

Chances are these peace talks are just for show and/or to buy time or to try and get people off guard for the next phase anyhow.
 
Amnesia said:
I don't see it at all, it's getting overplayed.
He didn't even bombard the towns before going in, this saves civilian lives and puts his own troops more at risk(Remember when America liberated Iraq with shock and awe ?).
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Because he's started off there with a different mission objective, which is to take over Ukraine, not flatten it. But they will if they want to.

He isn't going to fire a nuke into the capitol after sending his troops to surround it.
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Of course he won't.

He also initiated peace talks.
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Lol, purleeeze...

How many different narratives have they given so far about why they weren't even building up their forces, or going in to Ukraine, or only going into the seperatist areas...no-one rightly believes a word Putins regime says at the minute
 
StriderX said:
Ukrainian blood is going to be spilled regardless of what the US/Europe does, the US/Europe has choice but to go down the path Putin has enforced upon them.
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No more could’ve been done beforehand. But Putin has invaded now the more you arm Ukrainians the more Ukrainians are going to die it seems backwards but it’s obvious.It’s pretty obvious the Russians are not looking to indiscriminately bomb and kill. Putting AK47s and Molotov cocktails in the hands of civilians makes them a danger to Russian soldiers and therefore paints a target on their back.
 
Putin wanted a soft regime change of a non people in a non country. He would send in a couple of convoys and the place would fold.

Who said that plans work until you meet the enemy or some such.
 
Doobedoo said:
No more could’ve been done beforehand. But Putin has invaded now the more you arm Ukrainians the more Ukrainians are going to die it seems backwards but it’s obvious.It’s pretty obvious the Russians are not looking to indiscriminately bomb and kill. Putting AK47s and Molotov cocktails in the hands of civilians makes them a danger to Russian soldiers and therefore paints a target on their back.
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As stated previously - get the f out of Ukraine then.
 
Doobedoo said:
No more could’ve been done beforehand. But Putin has invaded now the more you arm Ukrainians the more Ukrainians are going to die it seems backwards but it’s obvious.It’s pretty obvious the Russians are not looking to indiscriminately bomb and kill. Putting AK47s and Molotov cocktails in the hands of civilians makes them a danger to Russian soldiers and therefore paints a target on their back.
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Well they're no longer civilians are they?
 
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