Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I wonder if Xi has enough sway with Putin to get him to back off. That could be a tricky one to negotiate...

Xi does not care, this is not his problem and does not affect him. He has nothing to gain by getting involved.

At the start sure but I think minds have changed as this has gone on.

Most are still opposed.

The AP-NORC poll shows 52 percent of Americans approve of a minor role in Ukraine, while 26 percent are supportive of a major role, and 20 percent do not approve of any U.S. role in the Eastern European nation.

The results are similar between both Democrats and Republicans, with more than half of voters on each side of the political aisle approving of a minor role in Ukraine.

We won the Cold War by keeping it cold, that's exactly what we do here, we win long term economically.

We won the Cold War by fighting proxy wars that weakened Russia and reduced her spheres of influence, baiting her into an arms race that she could neither win nor afford, forging strong alliances, and expanding our economies at a pace she could not match.

I am not suggesting we should enter the war in Ukraine directly, but as a proxy war it has potential to benefit us by weakening Russia. So let's treat it as another Cold War situation.
 
100% and it just shows Putin that we are spineless individuals who are effectively OK with genocide.

Going to war with Russia and us being the one to say so makes him right all along and the messages he has been saying correct "see the west is evil they are attacking us".

Unfortunately we need to keep doing what we are, sit back and wait for him to cross the red line first.
 
That's not the question here. You push a country so far with sanctions it is going to end in tears for everyone. Propaganda will turn the Russian populace against the west. These sanctions do nothing to hurt Putin and his cronies. All these sanctions are doing is hurting the common man on the street.

There are really only two/three outcomes to this.

-Putin gets what he wants and takes over Ukraine. Is the fall of Ukraine worth world war 3? That is the sad reality.

-Putin doesn't get what he wants and ends up nuking everyone.

-Putin gets dispatched internally.

I honestly cannot see a way that this ends in the correct way without Putin being killed or taken out of office.

Totally agree.
Pray for option 3.
I think it's time to start planning round 2.
Putin has this one sewn up. He can effectively blow the **** out of Ukraine and we are gonna sit here saying how bad it is. Twiddling our very tied up thumbs.
Ukraine is a sacrificial lamb.
 
The minute they let him invade the west and EU had already resigned to losing Ukraine.
The poor attempt of how Russia are going about it is out with their control, as is the impressive resistance.

Unfortunately it will fall, it might be uglier than most would have thought.
Putin wont talk until a Russian flag flies over Kyiv.

He gets off on watching it all unfold to nuke anyone so calm down
 
Totally agree.
Pray for option 3.
I think it's time to start planning round 2.
Putin has this one sewn up. He can effectively blow the **** out of the Ukraine and we are gonna sit here saying how bad it is. Twiddling our very tied up thumbs.
Ukraine is a sacrificial lamb.

Saying we are "Twiddling our thumbs" is incorrect.
 
NATO or under a different flag, Ukraine need serious feet on the ground and wings in the air...

That's not how it works. This is the real world, not Hollywood. You are proposing that NATO should break the rules of war to help Ukraine. Utter madness.
 
Totally agree.
Pray for option 3.
I think it's time to start planning round 2.
Putin has this one sewn up. He can effectively blow the **** out of the Ukraine and we are gonna sit here saying how bad it is. Twiddling our very tied up thumbs.
Ukraine is a sacrificial lamb.


We got ourselves into the situation where Ukraine was a sacrificial lamb.
It's horrible buts it's true.
 
I am sure a lot of people follow him but bald and bankrupt did a piece of himself leaving Ukraine. It was really quite sad the conductor was letting on as many as the train could take.


His channel is worth a watch. Initially I thought he was some pro Russian YouTube propaganda machine but he just has a love for old Soviet history.


Sad video. Mad him and his creep mate are still lurking round eastern Europe though.
 
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