Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Tombstone said:
Stuff like this (IF its true) is evidence of why people shouldnt just blanket accept social media reports as factual.
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The news are using UA social media posts as pretty much the only source of information. And it is 99% false, fabricated or wrong.

Put some CNN boots on the ground ffs.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Interesting if BBC are correct

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Close analysis of the latest satellite images by McKenzie Intelligence Services reveals the following:

  • The convoy is not 40 miles long, it’s a series of logistical ‘packets’ strung out along a major highway from the Belarus border, aiming to link up with Russian units on the northern outskirts of Kyiv.
  • The convoy appears to be hampered in several places by broken down vehicles.
  • The column consists of some armour (tanks) and infantry fighting vehicles but mainly logistical vehicles, implying plans for more than just a brief battle."
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They must be waiting for fuel, that drone strike yesterday must have knocked supplies
 
alec said:
The news are using UA social media posts as pretty much the only source of information. And it is 99% false, fabricated or wrong.

Put some CNN boots on the ground ffs.
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I agree that we probably don't really know what is going on for the most part.
 
Doobedoo said:
All the outcry in here you would expect their to already be a thread. Like I said it appears people put different values of the life of a person depending on who’s involved. No media coverage at all but Russia gets plenty. I have no problem with Russia being held accountable at all but so should plenty of others for past and present. Morally bankrupt if not.
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So where’s your threads about Yemen?
 
adam cool dude said:
I am sure a lot of people follow him but bald and bankrupt did a piece of himself leaving Ukraine. It was really quite sad the conductor was letting on as many as the train could take.


His channel is worth a watch. Initially I thought he was some pro Russian YouTube propaganda machine but he just has a love for old Soviet history.
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That was surprisingly quiet at the start. I bet that's completely different today.
 
steve45 said:
Does anyone on here remember back to the 80's when the Cold War was still going strong? Were Russia as confrontational, bullish and just plain deluded back then? I'm guessing reporting would be a lot different and much much less access to information.
I was too young to have taken much notice back then. I do remember being aware of Russia's nuclear weapons back then, and that they were very very bad. Being so young when I learned about them, it meant little to me though.
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I was a child in the 80s so like you wasn't fully aware but I would say:
  • Reporting definitely different as all news came through standard broadcast channels and newspapers, no internet.
  • Any Russian/Soviet invasion of a neighbouring European state would probably have been a big deal due to the alliances in force, the closest thing I guess was Afghanistan but that probably felt less threatening to people.
  • The Cold War was already an Old War by then, so even when tensions were slightly raised I imagine people were kind of 'used to it'. This is a bit different from the modern era where a whole generation have grown up without the USSR. To be honest the threat of Nuclear war seemed very distant back then, certainly a far cry from the footage I've seen of the 50s and 60s; I'd say domestic terrorism by the IRA got at least as much attention.
  • Delusions I imagine were greater back then because of the lack of information. Probably the Kremlin had people in office with a lesser understanding of the outside world due to this, although I imagine they also had some highly educated / well travelled elites with access to good intel.

I guess my worry with Putin is he may end up feeling he is backed into a corner whereby he feels he has little to lose from pushing the big red button; clearly he does not want the West meddling in soviet affairs and the fact they aren't directly engaging in conflict may not be enough to dissuade him if they continue turning the screw in others areas (supply chains, finances, supplying weapons, sanctions etc). He might take the stance that if the war isn't progressing the right way then the best thing is to test the waters with some tactical nukes, see if that makes people back off. If not, and the situation escalates, he may see that sort of 'mutual destruction' scenario as preferable to a 'defeat'
 
Firestar_3x said:
And? They still import a shed load, so this rhetoric of not needing to intervein because of oil is rubbish, they could have gone to war and got it for "free".
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Last year the US was a net exporter of crude oil

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=49596



Imorts and export have been similar for sometime. Obama msde a big push to increase US oil production so it is less reliant on other countries. The current balance is just economics, but essentially the US could become almost entirely self-reliant if need be
 
Lysander said:
So this is his bit of stuff is it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alina_Kabaeva

Not bad. Very bendy too. I see the plan now. Nuke the world and live in an underground city with her.

Nice. Not sure why he needs to nuke everyone first though.
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After all the drugs and hormones that will have been pumped into her by the Russian regime she'll have a bigger **** than I have.
 
D.P. said:
Last year the US was a net exporter of crude oil

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=49596



Imorts and export have been similar for sometime. Obama msde a big push to increase US oil production so it is less reliant on other countries. The current balance is just economics, but essentially the US could become almost entirely self-reliant if need be
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Yes, they still need to import to meet demand, they are unable to produce enough at home.

The original point was the US has not invaded because they don't need the oil, this is not true, they pay to import a lot of oil.
 
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